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<b>Hey! Make them, funny faces!</b>
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<b>When there's no boundary, they're afraid.</b>
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<b>So they say if I go too far and lose sight</b>
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<b>of others, then what do I do? I get lost.</b>
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<b>And so I stay within sight.</b>
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<b>When instead they're too closed, their</b>
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<b>desire is to go beyond,</b>
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<b>but because they don't have enough</b>
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<b>space to be able to move.</b>
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<b>So it's much more dangerous</b>
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<b>to keep them closed than to let them free.</b>
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<b>Because someone still thinks that outdoor</b>
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<b>education is simply taking children out.</b>
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<b>In reality, there is one of the</b>
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<b>pedagogical, neuroscientific bases that push this.</b>
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<b>The fact that there is a formal</b>
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<b>recognition, frankly for us, is not substantial.</b>
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<b>In our project it matters little to us.</b>
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<b>certainly to the entire development of other projects.</b>
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<b>In fact, I remember taking a course</b>
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<b>with you in Emilia-Romagna, years ago</b>
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<b>I remember you telling us</b>
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<b>'to open something like that</b>
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<b>you absolutely have to go against some rule'</b>
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<b>but why then</b>
<b>does those in power hinder virtuous projects, right?!</b>
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<b>Whether they are educational, whether they are</b>
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<b>linked to agriculture, to a new way</b>
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<b>of conceiving the organization of work.</b>
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<b>Because all the great changes</b>
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<b>then are a risk for those in power so</b>
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<b>We basically don't expect</b>
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<b>change to be handed down from above.</b>
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<b>The top will move when the bottom, civil</b>
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<b>society organizes and will put such</b>
<b>pressure that they can't do otherwise.</b>
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<b>So we must have the courage to go beyond</b>
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<b>the concept of legality, which is important</b>
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<b>but is less important than the concept</b>
<b>of justice.</b>
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<b>So if there is something that is legal, but is</b>
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<b>unjust, we must have the courage to make justice shine</b>
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<b>fundamentally this is what we have imprinted</b>
<b>in our heads and in our</b>
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<b>hearts, the members of this community here.</b>
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<b>Look!</b>
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<b>It gave me the chills!</b>
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<b>Somewhere we must</b>
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<b>start again to change things, in short.</b>
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<b>And definitely try to</b>
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<b>change them from the perspective of children.</b>
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<b>It is perhaps the most natural thing to do.</b>
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<b>So start from the small seed and then get</b>
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<b>a big, healthy and strong tree.</b>
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<b>Look, the main problem of young people
is the old.</b>
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<b>In the sense that adults</b>
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<b>consider young people insignificant.</b>
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<b>And even young people end up</b>
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<b>considering themselves insignificant.</b>
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<b>So it's about significance itself.</b>
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<b>When do I become significant?</b>
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<b>The Fox says it well in The Little Prince.</b>
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<b>You become significant, I</b>
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<b>become unique to you when you care for me.</b>
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<b>Yes, what is it? Let's start from the
awareness that</b>
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<b>children are thinking beings, they are people.</b>
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<b>As people?</b>
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<b>As people.</b>
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<b>Yes, yes, human beings.</b>
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<b>But what are you telling them? It's not true.</b>
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<b>They understand these things, in fact, they
are much freer from schemes,</b>
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<b>judgments, prejudices, etcetera etcetera.</b>
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<b>And immediately arrives where it has to arrive.</b>
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<b>It is an adult who has difficulty because</b>
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<b>he also has schemes, judgments and barriers.</b>
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<b>But I don't have them. So, far from not
being able to</b>
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<b>understand. You are the one who doesn't
understand, maybe.</b>
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<b>What is the difficulty.</b>
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<b>Come on.</b>
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<b>It's a bit the thing.</b>
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<b>Yes, it's a bit the thing.</b>
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<b>Everything's fine.</b>
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<b>You're Hulk, right?</b>
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<b>What's wrong?</b>
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<b>What's wrong?</b>
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<b>What's wrong?</b>
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<b>What's wrong?</b>
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<b>It's a child.</b>
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<b>It's Christmas for young people, but not
these ones.</b>
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<b>What's wrong?</b>
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<b>Are they safe?</b>
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<b>There are all these turns at...</b>
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<b>It's important that they are safe.</b>
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<b>It's all a bit about them being safe.</b>
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<b>Leave colvi colvi!</b>
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<b>Small ones, that is, the small one from a
companion</b>
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<b>3-4 years older, it has a huge impact.</b>
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<b>In those moments that are not the standard
canonical lesson,</b>
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<b>they receive and absorb a lot.</b>
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<b>So we see it practically.</b>
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<b>So let's always do it in</b>
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<b>a way that things come naturally.</b>
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<b>So it's to move the day</b>
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<b>so they can mix and contaminate.</b>
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<b>So if you give them a bit of time,
really</b>
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<b>everyone is able to learn</b>
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<b>we all have in number inside, that
then we can't</b>
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<b>at that moment this is very sensitive
to them, right?</b>
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<b>If we can't express it and to</b>
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<b>express ourselves, right, on this it
was fine, right?</b>
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<b>That is, society labels you as an
idiot right away!</b>
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<b>And you're an idiot for the next
twenty years, until maybe you,</b>
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<b>then you mature, you don't have a
consciousness</b>
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<b>that makes you understand and I get
the things</b>
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<b>They know the school you...</b>
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<b>But at the level of growth the concept
of</b>
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<b>error does not yet exist, but all
information</b>
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<b>Something that our education system
has had to relearn, or</b>
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<b>maybe it's still learning it</b>
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<b>of not punishing, of not judging,
right?</b>
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<b>Already perhaps the teachings</b>
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<b>beating in nature, is not judging</b>
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<b>I've never seen once that she passed
by here that she</b>
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<b>told me but look how you dressed
Christian</b>
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<b>never happened that a living being
stopped in front of</b>
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<b>me and told me something like that</b>
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<b>equal not... how to say, not</b>
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<b>the aspect of other people's
expectations exists</b>
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<b>That is, when I enter a forest I don't
have a feeling that</b>
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<b>I have to be in a certain way</b>
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<b>because otherwise I'm not good</b>
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<b>but absurdly if I go to a convention
I have to be careful</b>
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<b>how I speak because I know there is an
expectation towards me</b>
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<b>Something that doesn't exist in nature</b>
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<b>And then the illusion of being able to
control, that I want</b>
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<b>to control when you go to a tropical
forest</b>
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<b>or when you go up in the mountains
and from what part you don't</b>
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<b>control anything, that is, you realize
that okay you are small...</b>
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<b>Small small</b>
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<b>These are three things that from
nature</b>
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<b>we can bring back into educational
processes</b>
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<b>we can say okay I can't control your
learning</b>
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<b>I can't have the expectation</b>
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<b>of who you will become because you o</b>
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<b>your head, your thoughts, your
emotion, your</b>
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<b>heart, your body, you want to have
rasta, get rasta</b>
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<b>you want to become muscular like
that,</b>
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<b>go, you want to become you, go, it's
yours</b>
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<b>This is a teaching in truth</b>
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<b>copied into nature, that somehow</b>
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<b>leaves you the space to become what
you want to become</b>
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<b>The amorza</b>
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<b>That we remove</b>
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<b>Ahhhh</b>
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<b>This was supposed to happen</b>
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<b>It's also the hair</b>
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<b>You want to play it better</b>
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<b>We'll leave it</b>
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<b>I told you about a nice alcane</b>
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<b>We learned that we need to be</b>
<b>careful, the press that</b>
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<b>There are dogs, some of the ball</b>
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<b>How nice, so he can play better</b>
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<b>He wants it, I told you not to</b>
<b>give the alcane the net</b>
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<b>If it didn't get punctured</b>
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<b>The canine, the show</b>
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<b>The show, the stories of the dogs</b>
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<b>With the ball</b>
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<b>That puff, which I don't like</b>
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<b>I don't like a canine that deflates</b>
<b>someone else's ball</b>
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<b>But do you know why it happens,</b>
<b>why do you think it happens?</b>
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<b>Because it bites it</b>
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<b>So what happens, does it want to</b>
<b>bite it?</b>
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<b>Because when it bites it deflates</b>
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<b>Yes, yes, it deflates</b>
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<b>Because the ball isn't whole</b>
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<b>It's just, just desire</b>
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<b>Oh no, look there, there's the</b>
<b>ball, there's the ball inside</b>
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<b>So what happens when it punctures</b>
<b>it?</b>
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<b>There's the ball, there's the ball</b>
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<b>It deflates</b>
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<b>There's the ball, there's the ball</b>
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<b>There's the ball, there's the ball</b>
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<b>It was better, so he played well</b>
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<b>It's that there's the ball,</b>
<b>there's the ball</b>
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<b>It was better, so he played</b>
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<b>The lands, the balls</b>
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<b>It's very dangerous, because here</b>
<b>there is...</b>
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<b>I have a learning for everyone</b>
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<b>A pair of veils, obviously</b>
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<b>And I don't want to teach children</b>
<b>anything</b>
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<b>I don't want to be seen as...</b>
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<b>And I'm not</b>
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<b>The teacher of the children I have,</b>
<b>no, it's an exchange</b>
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<b>Oh, oh, oh</b>
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<b>Hello</b>
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<b>Hello</b>
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<b>Hello</b>
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<b>How was the sea?</b>
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<b>Calm, calm</b>
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<b>Calm, calm</b>
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<b>Calm, calm, calm</b>
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<b>Very good</b>
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<b>I am such a thing that I believe</b>
<b>is very important</b>
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<b>That you must discover that you, a</b>
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<b>you love these kids</b>
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<b>I mean, you can't teach kids</b>
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<b>If you don't love them, these kids</b>
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<b>I mean, I started with children</b>
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<b>Children give great satisfaction, right?</b>
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<b>Because they are expansive, etc., right?</b>
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<b>And so, you get to the doctors</b>
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<b>But, in reality, keep in mind</b>
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<b>That you are empathetic with their siblings</b>
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<b>That is, you care that they are happy</b>
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<b>That they, right? And so...</b>
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<b>There is a relationship</b>
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<b>You have to learn to build this
relationship with the kids</b>
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<b>Those children, without whom, I don't
think you can...</b>
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<b>To exchange fish and interact</b>
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<b>You can't effectively participate</b>
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<b>Okay, it's not like I'm going to say,
I'm telling you, come on, don't cry</b>
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<b>Yes, come on, don't cry, you can't say
that to anyone</b>
219
01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:51,933
<b>It means not accepting the emotional
world of the other, right?</b>
220
01:11:52,333 --> 01:11:54,233
<b>And this is in the prola culture</b>
221
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:55,933
<b>Like, come on, don't cry, I'll buy you ice cream</b>
222
01:11:56,533 --> 01:11:59,366
<b>And instead, no, cry, you're sad, okay,
crying is okay</b>
223
01:11:59,433 --> 01:12:00,366
<b>What happened?</b>
224
01:12:00,899 --> 01:12:03,366
<b>It starts with nature not welcoming</b>
225
01:12:05,300 --> 01:12:07,199
<b>Includes, integrates</b>
226
01:12:07,300 --> 01:12:09,233
<b>While we, in educational processes,</b>
227
01:12:09,300 --> 01:12:11,300
<b>are often about excluding things</b>
228
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:16,066
<b>Good</b>
229
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:19,833
<b>He's talking like that</b>
230
01:12:19,899 --> 01:12:20,733
<b>Yes, inside?</b>
231
01:12:20,933 --> 01:12:21,933
<b>Yes, he's playing</b>
232
01:12:22,333 --> 01:12:24,533
<b>And then we start explaining, let's say,</b>
233
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,433
<b>we don't go for grades, we don't go for
homework</b>
234
01:12:26,500 --> 01:12:27,800
<b>We go for notes in the diary</b>
235
01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:31,699
<b>We impose silence, etc., etc.</b>
236
01:12:31,766 --> 01:12:33,233
<b>Eh, but if there's a fame</b>
237
01:12:33,333 --> 01:12:35,699
<b>So, what weapons do you use against
children?</b>
238
01:12:36,366 --> 01:12:38,100
<b>What weapons do you use against
children?</b>
239
01:12:38,166 --> 01:12:39,933
<b>But we're really not at war here</b>
240
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,566
<b>We don't need to, we're in trouble</b>
241
01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:44,733
<b>Do you understand what I mean?</b>
242
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,066
<b>We're not at war, so let's go to a
place together</b>
243
01:12:48,300 --> 01:12:49,833
<b>There will certainly be some</b>
244
01:12:49,899 --> 01:12:51,266
<b>difficulties, but it's not threatened</b>
245
01:12:51,333 --> 01:12:54,500
<b>I'm threatening you that we'll solve them</b>
246
01:12:54,566 --> 01:12:57,133
<b>So the grade is definitely a coercive tool</b>
247
01:12:57,300 --> 01:12:58,866
<b>Threatening</b>
248
01:12:59,300 --> 01:13:01,266
<b>And the child is totally defenseless,</b>
249
01:13:01,333 --> 01:13:04,133
<b>because the teacher is that weapon there</b>
250
01:13:04,199 --> 01:13:06,699
<b>It's deadly, that is, it determines</b>
251
01:13:06,766 --> 01:13:09,266
<b>basically the whole story of...</b>
252
01:13:10,066 --> 01:13:11,399
<b>You may have gone like me, to a</b>
253
01:13:11,466 --> 01:13:13,633
<b>normal school where you got grades</b>
254
01:13:13,699 --> 01:13:16,833
<b>And then when you get a bad grade, you're fine</b>
255
01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:21,433
<b>Or even when you are one who always gets</b>
<b>good grades</b>
256
01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:23,866
<b>That too is a constraint with</b>
257
01:13:23,933 --> 01:13:27,833
<b>your identity that leaves you free</b>
258
01:13:27,899 --> 01:13:30,500
<b>Not to study, not to know, right?</b>
259
01:13:32,133 --> 01:13:35,633
<b>To errors, the things that happen here,</b>
<b>for example</b>
260
01:13:35,699 --> 01:13:39,600
<b>Some are simple mistakes that</b>
261
01:13:39,666 --> 01:13:41,166
<b>we are not willing to accept</b>
262
01:13:41,233 --> 01:13:42,233
<b>I was talking about it with them</b>
263
01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:43,733
<b>That is, if we look at this wall,</b>
264
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,266
<b>we made it with a group of students</b>
265
01:13:45,333 --> 01:13:48,733
<b>There are a lot of mistakes that don't</b>
266
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,033
<b>affect the stability of this wall</b>
267
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:52,633
<b>And that at some point give</b>
268
01:13:52,699 --> 01:13:54,533
<b>its character to this wall here</b>
269
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,833
<b>These are errors due to the fact that</b>
270
01:13:57,899 --> 01:13:59,933
<b>a boy who was studying something</b>
271
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,366
<b>There is a certain point pericività,</b>
<b>therefore in the Middle Ages</b>
272
01:14:02,866 --> 01:14:06,133
<b>You don't want to just show him how</b>
273
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:08,266
<b>to lay that stone, I give him the part</b>
274
01:14:08,666 --> 01:14:11,600
<b>You want to tell him, take that stone</b>
<b>and put the amp on</b>
275
01:14:11,666 --> 01:14:13,266
<b>point because it will stay there 500 years</b>
276
01:14:13,333 --> 01:14:16,899
<b>And so on the one hand we load</b>
<b>responsibility</b>
277
01:14:16,966 --> 01:14:20,366
<b>Even just to make them understand how</b>
<b>much it weighs</b>
278
01:14:20,433 --> 01:14:21,733
<b>And why he has to move it,</b>
279
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,300
<b>how he can break it, he has to do it</b>
280
01:14:23,366 --> 01:14:25,600
<b>And on the other hand, we are therefore</b>
<b>also</b>
281
01:14:25,666 --> 01:14:27,466
<b>willing to accept imperfection</b>
282
01:14:27,533 --> 01:14:31,266
<b>This kind of error that works</b>
283
01:14:31,333 --> 01:14:35,100
<b>And together create, in our opinion, a</b>
284
01:14:35,166 --> 01:14:38,733
<b>modality that is characteristic of here</b>
285
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:39,266
<b>And that's it</b>
286
01:14:44,533 --> 01:14:45,033
<b>Yeah, isn't that enough?</b>
287
01:14:48,866 --> 01:14:50,733
<b>And there was a beautiful thing, going</b>
<b>back to the knot</b>
288
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,033
<b>There was a candle made with a birch</b>
<b>trunk that</b>
289
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:56,100
<b>the birch is white, it was beautiful</b>
290
01:14:56,300 --> 01:14:59,366
<b>And they made the fake flame on this candle</b>
291
01:14:59,433 --> 01:15:01,899
<b>They dug it out of a</b>
292
01:15:01,966 --> 01:15:03,800
<b>piece of wood that had the knot</b>
293
01:15:03,866 --> 01:15:06,733
<b>And from afar it looked just like the</b>
294
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,233
<b>knot that made all the rings</b>
295
01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:11,933
<b>Concentric around the deviation of</b>
<b>the fiber</b>
296
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:15,333
<b>When returning to the knot, it looked</b>
<b>just like the flame lit</b>
297
01:15:16,433 --> 01:15:20,699
<b>And so you make those who</b>
298
01:15:20,766 --> 01:15:24,766
<b>come to do your teaching activity</b>
299
01:15:25,300 --> 01:15:27,300
<b>To work, to learn to work with you</b>
300
01:15:27,366 --> 01:15:31,533
<b>That if you know the piece of wood you live it</b>
301
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,533
<b>You can get things out of it that</b>
302
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,899
<b>might otherwise be a discarded piece</b>
<b>of wood with the ax in the center.</b>
303
01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:39,800
<b>Instead, it had a shape that</b>
304
01:15:39,866 --> 01:15:41,933
<b>could only become the flame of a candle.</b>
305
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:45,233
<b>For its right place, that defect is</b>
306
01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:46,899
<b>become the treasure of that piece of wood.</b>
307
01:15:47,300 --> 01:15:48,866
<b>In truth, all the land was like that.</b>
308
01:15:48,933 --> 01:15:51,699
<b>And the first time they entered, I didn't</b>
309
01:15:51,766 --> 01:15:53,433
<b>even understand if the ground was really there.</b>
310
01:15:53,500 --> 01:15:58,633
<b>If it was all a steep mountain and you</b>
<b>couldn't understand anything.</b>
311
01:15:58,699 --> 01:16:00,899
<b>You couldn't even enter, with the</b>
312
01:16:00,966 --> 01:16:04,233
<b>machete, it was a really, really tough thing.</b>
313
01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:08,000
<b>But, it was worth it, in a simple way.</b>
314
01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:10,166
<b>Looking back, after you've</b>
315
01:16:10,233 --> 01:16:12,133
<b>walked 4 meters that you've cleaned.</b>
316
01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:15,633
<b>And you arrived at the ground from brambles</b>
<b>and wood.</b>
317
01:16:15,699 --> 01:16:18,899
<b>And in some cases, like the other</b>
318
01:16:18,966 --> 01:16:20,833
<b>bottom, even in abandoned Mondizia.</b>
319
01:16:20,899 --> 01:16:23,300
<b>In real, domestic, human Mondizia.</b>
320
01:16:23,366 --> 01:16:25,433
<b>And not just plant material.</b>
321
01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:27,533
<b>When you look at yourself you say, ah,</b>
322
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,233
<b>this is a piece of cultivable land.</b>
323
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:30,533
<b>That's enough.</b>
324
01:16:31,333 --> 01:16:32,733
<b>And then you also eat the tomatoes,</b>
325
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,500
<b>you can sell them, you make oil and you</b>
<b>have lemons.</b>
326
01:16:34,566 --> 01:16:38,433
<b>And certainly the final goal, but it's</b>
<b>not the...</b>
327
01:16:39,133 --> 01:16:41,533
<b>It's the intermediate satisfactions, those</b>
<b>that really matter.</b>
328
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,233
<b>Those daily ones, and they are there,</b>
<b>thankfully they are there.</b>
329
01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:52,466
<b>In vain, we told each other, but if</b>
<b>he only promised me</b>
330
01:16:53,300 --> 01:16:55,600
<b>That in vain we will cook black cabbage,</b>
331
01:16:55,666 --> 01:16:57,766
<b>because I know how to cook it very,</b>
<b>very well.</b>
332
01:16:58,333 --> 01:16:59,266
<b>And the walk on the volcano.</b>
333
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:03,033
<b>And the walk on the volcano.</b>
334
01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:05,800
<b>Yes, on the way.</b>
335
01:17:05,866 --> 01:17:07,633
<b>Oh, how beautiful, I can't wait.</b>
336
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:09,766
<b>That I want to sow it.</b>
337
01:17:10,566 --> 01:17:12,100
<b>So, if I show you the plant a little.</b>
338
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,166
<b>This is real mint.</b>
339
01:17:14,300 --> 01:17:17,000
<b>The star thing is mint life.</b>
340
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:18,933
<b>No, you are also minds, there is.</b>
341
01:17:19,300 --> 01:17:19,666
<b>It's true.</b>
342
01:17:19,733 --> 01:17:21,433
<b>I'm arriving the first portions.</b>
343
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:24,933
<b>And also for the delchi, look of a very</b>
<b>fresh.</b>
344
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,800
<b>When children grow something.</b>
345
01:17:29,866 --> 01:17:33,100
<b>They establish a relationship of care.</b>
346
01:17:33,166 --> 01:17:35,800
<b>And care makes the object significant.</b>
347
01:17:35,866 --> 01:17:38,933
<b>But it makes the subject significantly.</b>
348
01:17:39,666 --> 01:17:42,733
<b>That is, I'm growing the tomato.</b>
349
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:47,766
<b>And the tomato is producing the fruit.</b>
350
01:17:48,899 --> 01:17:50,500
<b>And but it's producing it for me.</b>
351
01:17:50,566 --> 01:17:54,266
<b>I took care of him and he's paying me back</b>
352
01:17:54,333 --> 01:17:56,800
<b>So I'm important to him</b>
353
01:17:56,866 --> 01:17:59,733
<b>So, even if it doesn't seem like it</b>
354
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,100
<b>Even in cultivation</b>
355
01:18:02,166 --> 01:18:04,666
<b>If I do it, not if someone else does it</b>
356
01:18:04,733 --> 01:18:06,966
<b>That I pay, etcetera</b>
357
01:18:07,033 --> 01:18:08,300
<b>There's a reciprocity</b>
358
01:18:08,366 --> 01:18:10,866
<b>I do something for you and you do something for me</b>
359
01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:15,833
<b>The paradox is that it responds more</b>
360
01:18:15,899 --> 01:18:19,300
<b>A tomato plant that not certain adults</b>
361
01:18:25,866 --> 01:18:26,666
<b>And I've said everything</b>
362
01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:29,333
<b>And I've said everything</b>
363
01:18:29,399 --> 01:18:31,399
<b>I'm going to see what almonds this one is</b>
364
01:18:31,466 --> 01:18:32,333
<b>I regretted it</b>
365
01:18:32,399 --> 01:18:34,866
<b>It's beautiful, those are the almonds</b>
366
01:18:34,933 --> 01:18:44,100
<b>I'm selling that there was a...</b>
367
01:18:44,166 --> 01:18:46,233
<b>There was a priest who was deconsecrated</b>
368
01:18:46,300 --> 01:18:48,866
<b>Aesthetically deconsecrated over time</b>
369
01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:50,633
<b>But I do it apart from people</b>
370
01:18:51,333 --> 01:18:52,500
<b>And so he goes here to pray</b>
371
01:18:52,566 --> 01:18:53,566
<b>But it was very good</b>
372
01:18:56,433 --> 01:18:56,699
<b>Laification</b>
373
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:20,300
<b>I comevet Access</b>
374
01:19:25,333 --> 01:19:27,600
<b>What fear, Jay?</b>
375
01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:31,266
<b>Soft.</b>
376
01:19:31,866 --> 01:19:32,633
<b>So how serious?</b>
377
01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:44,533
<b>The word is precisely cession.</b>
378
01:19:45,033 --> 01:19:47,300
<b>In which we are the ones who browse,</b>
379
01:19:47,366 --> 01:19:48,566
<b>we dress the child,</b>
380
01:19:49,100 --> 01:19:52,233
<b>putting science or God is too dressed,</b>
381
01:19:52,300 --> 01:19:54,033
<b>God is too browsed,</b>
382
01:19:54,300 --> 01:19:56,600
<b>we try to work with the child's profession</b>
383
01:19:56,666 --> 01:20:00,466
<b>in saying to the warm, to the naked, to the cold, the clothes, here.</b>
384
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:02,399
<b>Then there are children,</b>
385
01:20:02,466 --> 01:20:04,600
<b>for whom this thing is automatic.</b>
386
01:20:04,666 --> 01:20:06,766
<b>There are children who reach six years</b>
387
01:20:06,833 --> 01:20:09,500
<b>who have not yet fully internalized this thing.</b>
388
01:20:09,966 --> 01:20:11,133
<b>Then we are so cilian,</b>
389
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:12,733
<b>so we pay attention to these things.</b>
390
01:20:13,366 --> 01:20:15,033
<b>Mom is very apprehensive,</b>
391
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:17,733
<b>the cold, the thing is to eat or not eat,</b>
392
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:18,533
<b>these beautiful things.</b>
393
01:20:20,300 --> 01:20:22,233
<b>That the project of us, the cold,</b>
394
01:20:22,300 --> 01:20:24,866
<b>we have 1, 2, 7, 9 throughout the year.</b>
395
01:20:25,866 --> 01:20:27,066
<b>Then here to sharpen the ciotano,</b>
396
01:20:27,733 --> 01:20:29,633
<b>also the geographical position where we are,</b>
397
01:20:29,899 --> 01:20:31,133
<b>the cold, the ciotano,</b>
398
01:20:31,933 --> 01:20:32,966
<b>1, 2 times a year.</b>
399
01:20:34,133 --> 01:20:35,399
<b>In a week,</b>
400
01:20:35,466 --> 01:20:36,333
<b>I can happen inside,</b>
401
01:20:36,399 --> 01:20:37,566
<b>So we're staying in a week.</b>
402
01:20:38,266 --> 01:20:39,666
<b>They are a type of weather.</b>
403
01:20:41,300 --> 01:20:43,199
<b>Also because they are mountain children,</b>
404
01:20:43,266 --> 01:20:44,199
<b>it made the mothers withdraw,</b>
405
01:20:44,533 --> 01:20:46,533
<b>when I say, hey, go outside, they get cold.</b>
406
01:20:46,833 --> 01:20:48,266
<b>But when they have to go skiing,</b>
407
01:20:48,333 --> 01:20:49,433
<b>from morning to evening,</b>
408
01:20:49,500 --> 01:20:50,933
<b>and you don't complain,</b>
409
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,300
<b>and so you say the mentality,</b>
410
01:20:52,366 --> 01:20:53,966
<b>is that, you put on a nice ski suit,</b>
411
01:20:54,033 --> 01:20:55,566
<b>you dress him well, let's go.</b>
412
01:20:56,366 --> 01:20:57,533
<b>I was a bio vimbo.</b>
413
01:20:58,300 --> 01:20:59,600
<b>Luca, thunder!</b>
414
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:03,033
<b>What do you think, is it starting to rain?</b>
415
01:21:05,300 --> 01:21:08,100
<b>I think so, there will also be strikes.</b>
416
01:21:08,833 --> 01:21:09,366
<b>Parlando? (Speaking?)</b>
417
01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:11,633
<b>The strikes of thunder.</b>
418
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:15,066
<b>Lightning precisely.</b>
419
01:21:15,333 --> 01:21:18,000
<b>Why is it less bad?</b>
420
01:21:18,366 --> 01:21:20,533
<b>Because I was giving you the foot.</b>
421
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,233
<b>There is the table area,</b>
422
01:21:22,566 --> 01:21:26,166
<b>there is the area where we eat,</b>
423
01:21:26,233 --> 01:21:27,933
<b>because we always eat outdoors,</b>
424
01:21:28,133 --> 01:21:30,533
<b>all year round except for periods.</b>
425
01:21:32,533 --> 01:21:34,133
<b>Our main problem,</b>
426
01:21:34,199 --> 01:21:35,333
<b>is when the fountain freezes.</b>
427
01:21:35,533 --> 01:21:36,533
<b>Here, because the fountain freezes</b>
428
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:37,833
<b>we can't eat here,</b>
429
01:21:37,899 --> 01:21:38,500
<b>but otherwise,</b>
430
01:21:38,566 --> 01:21:40,533
<b>usually we always eat outside,</b>
431
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,366
<b>also because we have the thermal castes,</b>
432
01:21:42,433 --> 01:21:43,133
<b>that arrive,</b>
433
01:21:43,333 --> 01:21:44,266
<b>we have the current,</b>
434
01:21:44,333 --> 01:21:45,866
<b>it's here, in the sofa,</b>
435
01:21:46,133 --> 01:21:47,500
<b>and so we have the possibility</b>
436
01:21:47,566 --> 01:21:51,766
<b>to keep the food warm,</b>
437
01:21:51,833 --> 01:21:52,733
<b>that if it arrives,</b>
438
01:21:53,300 --> 01:21:54,399
<b>and then still serve</b>
439
01:21:54,466 --> 01:21:55,833
<b>the hot dish and to consumption.</b>
440
01:21:56,633 --> 01:21:57,399
<b>Yes, no, no,</b>
441
01:21:57,466 --> 01:21:58,466
<b>they get sick much more often</b>
442
01:21:58,533 --> 01:21:59,266
<b>they are inside,</b>
443
01:21:59,533 --> 01:22:01,899
<b>because often closed environments,</b>
444
01:22:02,266 --> 01:22:03,800
<b>even if well ventilated anyway,</b>
445
01:22:04,066 --> 01:22:05,699
<b>are places</b>
446
01:22:05,766 --> 01:22:08,300
<b>that lend themselves</b>
447
01:22:08,366 --> 01:22:10,833
<b>to the development of bacteria, of viruses,</b>
448
01:22:11,466 --> 01:22:12,266
<b>and therefore a child who</b>
449
01:22:12,333 --> 01:22:15,100
<b>no wonder, the children who are sent</b>
450
01:22:15,166 --> 01:22:15,966
<b>to the nursery,</b>
451
01:22:16,300 --> 01:22:18,366
<b>they will spend much more time at
home,</b>
452
01:22:18,433 --> 01:22:19,333
<b>because then they get sick more
than</b>
453
01:22:19,399 --> 01:22:20,566
<b>at kindergarten,</b>
454
01:22:20,833 --> 01:22:24,199
<b>because they pick up bacteria
there,</b>
455
01:22:24,266 --> 01:22:25,199
<b>and they bring it home,</b>
456
01:22:25,266 --> 01:22:25,899
<b>they can stay at home</b>
457
01:22:25,966 --> 01:22:27,533
<b>after a week of 10 days.</b>
458
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:28,866
<b>Outside instead,</b>
459
01:22:29,066 --> 01:22:31,333
<b>it's more, I'm not saying they
don't get sick,</b>
460
01:22:31,399 --> 01:22:33,333
<b>because they get sick too,</b>
461
01:22:33,399 --> 01:22:34,733
<b>but it's not as frequent</b>
462
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,600
<b>to get sick.</b>
463
01:22:36,666 --> 01:22:37,300
<b>On the other hand,</b>
464
01:22:37,366 --> 01:22:39,233
<b>coming into contact with bacteria,</b>
465
01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:39,866
<b>with viruses,</b>
466
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,600
<b>and it subjects</b>
467
01:22:43,666 --> 01:22:45,033
<b>the immune system</b>
468
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:46,433
<b>already to a training,</b>
469
01:22:46,500 --> 01:22:47,399
<b>therefore to a reinforcement</b>
470
01:22:47,466 --> 01:22:48,633
<b>of the immune defenses.</b>
471
01:22:48,966 --> 01:22:49,933
<b>Then the sun,</b>
472
01:22:50,166 --> 01:22:51,666
<b>the production of serotonin,</b>
473
01:22:52,333 --> 01:22:53,933
<b>and these hormones that are coming</b>
474
01:22:54,300 --> 01:22:56,366
<b>produced by the body</b>
475
01:22:57,033 --> 01:22:58,233
<b>further raise</b>
476
01:22:58,300 --> 01:23:00,100
<b>the immune defenses.</b>
477
01:23:00,166 --> 01:23:01,899
<b>So it has all</b>
478
01:23:01,966 --> 01:23:02,699
<b>the advantageous</b>
479
01:23:02,766 --> 01:23:03,466
<b>being outside.</b>
480
01:23:04,633 --> 01:23:07,033
<b>The day is marked so much</b>
481
01:23:07,300 --> 01:23:10,899
<b>by the passing of seasonal</b>
482
01:23:11,300 --> 01:23:12,633
<b>time,</b>
483
01:23:13,666 --> 01:23:14,266
<b>so that</b>
484
01:23:16,300 --> 01:23:18,233
<b>when there is the period of water</b>
485
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:19,600
<b>they stay more in the water,</b>
486
01:23:19,833 --> 01:23:21,133
<b>because here they form</b>
487
01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:22,633
<b>puddles that they call</b>
488
01:23:22,699 --> 01:23:24,600
<b>our natural rivers,</b>
489
01:23:24,666 --> 01:23:25,800
<b>so they spend hours</b>
490
01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:27,633
<b>with their suits,</b>
491
01:23:27,699 --> 01:23:28,533
<b>their boots</b>
492
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:29,666
<b>inside the water,</b>
493
01:23:29,733 --> 01:23:31,466
<b>in the mud, etc.</b>
494
01:23:32,666 --> 01:23:35,266
<b>And then face...</b>
495
01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:37,800
<b>So we do the activities,</b>
496
01:23:38,333 --> 01:23:40,366
<b>but they are activities conducted</b>
497
01:23:40,433 --> 01:23:43,033
<b>by the child's curiosity,</b>
498
01:23:43,533 --> 01:23:44,333
<b>so in the morning</b>
499
01:23:44,399 --> 01:23:45,800
<b>there is an assembly,</b>
500
01:23:45,866 --> 01:23:47,100
<b>there are children who say</b>
501
01:23:47,166 --> 01:23:48,633
<b>I'm not taking the trip today,</b>
502
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,433
<b>I'm not doing anything today,</b>
503
01:23:50,500 --> 01:23:51,966
<b>Today I am... it's okay.</b>
504
01:23:52,966 --> 01:23:54,266
<b>Their nothing is everything,</b>
505
01:23:54,666 --> 01:23:56,766
<b>their nothing in pedagogy is all.</b>
506
01:23:57,199 --> 01:23:57,833
<b>Let's begin.</b>
507
01:23:58,666 --> 01:23:58,933
<b>What?</b>
508
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,100
<b>There are coconuts.</b>
509
01:24:00,166 --> 01:24:01,199
<b>A coconut of the irre.</b>
510
01:24:01,266 --> 01:24:02,366
<b>But, no, no.</b>
511
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:03,800
<b>The coconut, amazing.</b>
512
01:24:03,866 --> 01:24:04,233
<b>Let's make a coconut of the irre.</b>
513
01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:05,133
<b>A bit of the irre,</b>
514
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:05,866
<b>there's that...</b>
515
01:24:06,666 --> 01:24:07,866
<b>No, a little comfortable.</b>
516
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:09,566
<b>But shall we do the trash version</b>
517
01:24:09,633 --> 01:24:10,899
<b>or the non-trash version?</b>
518
01:24:11,133 --> 01:24:11,633
<b>Right, now.</b>
519
01:24:12,300 --> 01:24:13,566
<b>Vomiting.</b>
520
01:24:15,366 --> 01:24:15,933
<b>Vomiting.</b>
521
01:24:16,300 --> 01:24:16,333
<b>No!</b>
522
01:24:16,699 --> 01:24:17,433
<b>Vomiting, fall, fall.</b>
523
01:24:17,500 --> 01:24:18,399
<b>Let's do it.</b>
524
01:24:18,466 --> 01:24:20,066
<b>What races, darken.</b>
525
01:24:20,933 --> 01:24:21,433
<b>What did you want to do?</b>
526
01:24:22,533 --> 01:24:23,966
<b>But shall we do a normal one?</b>
527
01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:25,500
<b>The usual one?</b>
528
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:26,266
<b>No!</b>
529
01:24:26,466 --> 01:24:27,666
<b>Come on, what's more variety?</b>
530
01:24:27,933 --> 01:24:28,433
<b>My choice.</b>
531
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:29,000
<b>I like it.</b>
532
01:24:29,199 --> 01:24:30,633
<b>But, last week,</b>
533
01:24:30,699 --> 01:24:31,766
<b>I took a course for...</b>
534
01:24:32,300 --> 01:24:33,266
<b>for adults,</b>
535
01:24:33,333 --> 01:24:34,600
<b>they all have professionals,</b>
536
01:24:34,666 --> 01:24:35,466
<b>surveyors, architects,</b>
537
01:24:36,033 --> 01:24:36,633
<b>adults.</b>
538
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:38,033
<b>Friday,</b>
539
01:24:38,333 --> 01:24:39,666
<b>the catering came to the portal</b>
540
01:24:39,733 --> 01:24:40,233
<b>to eat,</b>
541
01:24:40,566 --> 01:24:41,266
<b>they said,</b>
542
01:24:41,333 --> 01:24:43,033
<b>please, can we be born</b>
543
01:24:43,100 --> 01:24:43,766
<b>the sausages here?</b>
544
01:24:44,333 --> 01:24:45,699
<b>The children came back,</b>
545
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:48,633
<b>to find us around the fire,</b>
546
01:24:48,699 --> 01:24:49,066
<b>I usually,</b>
547
01:24:49,366 --> 01:24:51,133
<b>when there is the initial meeting,</b>
548
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:51,800
<b>let's call it that,</b>
549
01:24:52,033 --> 01:24:53,166
<b>or the meeting point,</b>
550
01:24:53,633 --> 01:24:55,233
<b>or in educational activities</b>
551
01:24:55,300 --> 01:24:56,533
<b>for kids, right?</b>
552
01:24:56,666 --> 01:24:57,966
<b>You are in a circle,</b>
553
01:24:58,033 --> 01:24:58,833
<b>start talking,</b>
554
01:24:59,033 --> 01:25:00,233
<b>talking about the program,</b>
555
01:25:00,633 --> 01:25:02,266
<b>I do the same things for adults</b>
556
01:25:02,333 --> 01:25:04,500
<b>and adults become children again,</b>
557
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,233
<b>they want to light up in flames</b>
558
01:25:06,300 --> 01:25:08,533
<b>and they want to live around,</b>
559
01:25:09,133 --> 01:25:11,333
<b>in a circle, around the fire,</b>
560
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,166
<b>then for all the educational activity.</b>
561
01:25:13,633 --> 01:25:15,100
<b>When I say, let's go to the hut,</b>
562
01:25:15,166 --> 01:25:16,166
<b>where there is the projector,</b>
563
01:25:16,533 --> 01:25:18,699
<b>that there you can do traditional</b>
<b>activities,</b>
564
01:25:18,766 --> 01:25:20,533
<b>they ask me if we can stay outside,</b>
565
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:21,366
<b>even without slides,</b>
566
01:25:22,033 --> 01:25:24,266
<b>because they come back here,</b>
567
01:25:26,333 --> 01:25:26,866
<b>let's say,</b>
568
01:25:26,933 --> 01:25:27,666
<b>they feel at home,</b>
569
01:25:28,166 --> 01:25:29,233
<b>more cuddled than at home.</b>
570
01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:32,166
<b>There was a cocometto,</b>
571
01:25:32,233 --> 01:25:33,600
<b>round, round,</b>
572
01:25:33,666 --> 01:25:35,633
<b>who wanted to be</b>
573
01:25:35,699 --> 01:25:37,633
<b>the strongest in the world,</b>
574
01:25:37,833 --> 01:25:41,766
<b>who wanted to surpass everyone,</b>
575
01:25:42,133 --> 01:25:45,066
<b>one fine day he started to...</b>
576
01:25:45,133 --> 01:25:46,733
<b>Poop, poop,</b>
577
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,166
<b>plop, plop, plop,</b>
578
01:25:48,399 --> 01:25:50,033
<b>he started pooping,</b>
579
01:25:50,399 --> 01:25:52,133
<b>plop, plop,</b>
580
01:25:52,199 --> 01:25:54,033
<b>he started pooping.</b>
581
01:25:54,366 --> 01:25:57,266
<b>Letting children do experiences</b>
582
01:25:57,333 --> 01:26:01,100
<b>is enough to give them</b>
583
01:26:01,166 --> 01:26:02,633
<b>the right tools,</b>
584
01:26:02,699 --> 01:26:05,633
<b>there is no need to do 200 pages of</b>
<b>hatred,</b>
585
01:26:05,699 --> 01:26:09,166
<b>because they will succeed anyway,</b>
586
01:26:09,433 --> 01:26:12,433
<b>because they manage to insert the seed,</b>
587
01:26:12,500 --> 01:26:13,333
<b>in the little hole,</b>
588
01:26:13,633 --> 01:26:15,633
<b>they manage to do many small things,</b>
589
01:26:15,899 --> 01:26:18,399
<b>which still teach them skills.</b>
590
01:26:18,633 --> 01:26:20,233
<b>We cannot think of</b>
591
01:26:20,300 --> 01:26:22,000
<b>having as an objective,</b>
592
01:26:22,066 --> 01:26:23,433
<b>imprinting elementary at Christmas,</b>
593
01:26:23,500 --> 01:26:24,666
<b>learning to read and write,</b>
594
01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:26,699
<b>because as an objective we give</b>
<b>ourselves</b>
595
01:26:26,766 --> 01:26:30,366
<b>that of making children discover</b>
596
01:26:30,433 --> 01:26:31,699
<b>how beautiful and important it is</b>
597
01:26:31,766 --> 01:26:32,600
<b>to read and write,</b>
598
01:26:32,899 --> 01:26:34,933
<b>so it remains one of our main goals,</b>
599
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:36,966
<b>because, well,</b>
600
01:26:37,166 --> 01:26:39,133
<b>I think that without the written word,</b>
601
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:41,766
<b>but also the spoken word,</b>
602
01:26:42,199 --> 01:26:44,633
<b>and without basic skills,</b>
603
01:26:44,866 --> 01:26:46,233
<b>you are not free enough,</b>
604
01:26:46,300 --> 01:26:47,100
<b>for me reading and writing</b>
605
01:26:47,166 --> 01:26:50,033
<b>are essential dimensions,</b>
606
01:26:50,433 --> 01:26:52,566
<b>but it can't be</b>
607
01:26:53,300 --> 01:26:55,500
<b>a training to read and write.</b>
608
01:26:55,566 --> 01:26:56,533
<b>I have all the methods,</b>
609
01:26:56,933 --> 01:26:58,500
<b>I have studied all the methods,</b>
610
01:26:58,733 --> 01:26:59,899
<b>I have studied all the methods to imagine him</b>
611
01:26:59,966 --> 01:27:02,566
<b>to train children to read and write,</b>
612
01:27:02,633 --> 01:27:04,366
<b>but that's not what interests me.</b>
613
01:27:04,733 --> 01:27:05,666
<b>We have children who,</b>
614
01:27:06,566 --> 01:27:07,833
<b>after a month of polis,</b>
615
01:27:07,899 --> 01:27:09,199
<b>already read and write them,</b>
616
01:27:09,266 --> 01:27:11,233
<b>and children who may be able to read and write</b>
617
01:27:11,300 --> 01:27:13,399
<b>in a, let's say,</b>
618
01:27:13,633 --> 01:27:18,133
<b>fluent, easily,</b>
619
01:27:18,533 --> 01:27:20,566
<b>maybe in third grade.</b>
620
01:27:21,333 --> 01:27:23,266
<b>And maybe in the same group,</b>
621
01:27:23,333 --> 01:27:24,033
<b>there are children who have</b>
622
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:25,699
<b>started writing at four years old,</b>
623
01:27:25,766 --> 01:27:27,300
<b>children who start writing,</b>
624
01:27:27,366 --> 01:27:29,300
<b>decide to give themselves the</b>
625
01:27:29,366 --> 01:27:31,733
<b>possibility of being able to write in third grade.</b>
626
01:27:32,066 --> 01:27:33,566
<b>There is no need for anything else,</b>
627
01:27:33,866 --> 01:27:34,066
<b>we are...</b>
628
01:27:35,300 --> 01:27:38,266
<b>we can really do anything in the open,</b>
629
01:27:38,333 --> 01:27:40,500
<b>and above all they need time,</b>
630
01:27:40,566 --> 01:27:42,933
<b>them, the freedom to choose</b>
631
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,233
<b>when it's time to do a structured activity,</b>
632
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,500
<b>and remember that when it's time to run,</b>
633
01:27:47,566 --> 01:27:48,699
<b>as you saw before,</b>
634
01:27:48,766 --> 01:27:50,066
<b>to blow into a tube</b>
635
01:27:50,333 --> 01:27:52,033
<b>and to hear if another hears from another part.</b>
636
01:27:52,733 --> 01:27:56,466
<b>And nature allows you to have more quiet times,</b>
637
01:27:56,866 --> 01:27:59,533
<b>as was yours, with its times,</b>
638
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,699
<b>and this we believe was the added value</b>
639
01:28:01,766 --> 01:28:02,966
<b>for a valued author.</b>
640
01:28:03,300 --> 01:28:05,533
<b>Of course there are some who have different times,</b>
641
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:06,133
<b>them,</b>
642
01:28:07,199 --> 01:28:10,233
<b>we are practically on average a teacher</b>
643
01:28:10,300 --> 01:28:11,233
<b>of seven children,</b>
644
01:28:12,399 --> 01:28:14,500
<b>and this allows us to be very close to them,</b>
645
01:28:14,566 --> 01:28:16,699
<b>they really all have different times,</b>
646
01:28:16,766 --> 01:28:17,833
<b>and what we try to do,</b>
647
01:28:18,300 --> 01:28:19,600
<b>which is quite complicated,</b>
648
01:28:19,666 --> 01:28:21,800
<b>is to give everyone time,</b>
649
01:28:22,466 --> 01:28:23,766
<b>that is, if he gets there right away,</b>
650
01:28:24,533 --> 01:28:26,433
<b>you may not get there right away,</b>
651
01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:27,333
<b>but it's not a problem,</b>
652
01:28:27,566 --> 01:28:28,466
<b>because you have your time,</b>
653
01:28:28,666 --> 01:28:30,166
<b>you'll get there in three months,</b>
654
01:28:30,233 --> 01:28:31,666
<b>in three weeks, in a year,</b>
655
01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:35,100
<b>so give them the chance to understand,</b>
656
01:28:35,166 --> 01:28:36,466
<b>look, it's not that you're stupid,</b>
657
01:28:37,300 --> 01:28:38,633
<b>you're not foolish,</b>
658
01:28:39,666 --> 01:28:41,766
<b>you'll get there, you have your own method,</b>
659
01:28:42,399 --> 01:28:43,366
<b>and this will allow you to</b>
660
01:28:43,433 --> 01:28:44,833
<b>reach the same result as him,</b>
661
01:28:44,899 --> 01:28:46,266
<b>because then he got to this result,</b>
662
01:28:46,333 --> 01:28:48,466
<b>but maybe you don't get your same results</b>
663
01:28:48,533 --> 01:28:49,233
<b>in something else,</b>
664
01:28:50,033 --> 01:28:51,266
<b>so make them understand that</b>
665
01:28:51,333 --> 01:28:54,300
<b>the class doesn't have to reach</b>
666
01:28:54,366 --> 01:28:55,866
<b>this goal necessarily</b>
667
01:28:56,300 --> 01:28:57,199
<b>at that moment,</b>
668
01:28:57,533 --> 01:28:59,266
<b>because not everyone can do it,</b>
669
01:28:59,333 --> 01:29:00,800
<b>there's always someone who falls behind,</b>
670
01:29:01,533 --> 01:29:02,833
<b>here, this one who falls behind,</b>
671
01:29:02,899 --> 01:29:04,333
<b>make them understand that you're not behind,</b>
672
01:29:05,133 --> 01:29:07,000
<b>you're at that level and you're proceeding,</b>
673
01:29:07,066 --> 01:29:09,433
<b>you're going on your own path,</b>
674
01:29:09,500 --> 01:29:11,300
<b>and you'll get there, end of story,</b>
675
01:29:11,366 --> 01:29:13,133
<b>so trust and time,</b>
676
01:29:13,833 --> 01:29:15,233
<b>look, I don't find in Teo,</b>
677
01:29:15,300 --> 01:29:16,233
<b>I remember when I was little,</b>
678
01:29:16,300 --> 01:29:19,166
<b>I had a class of 27,</b>
679
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:20,600
<b>there was a teacher,</b>
680
01:29:21,233 --> 01:29:23,000
<b>but how could she follow 27 children?</b>
681
01:29:23,333 --> 01:29:24,333
<b>I already didn't have difficulties,</b>
682
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:26,433
<b>because if you have to commit and concentrate on each one,</b>
683
01:29:27,399 --> 01:29:28,866
<b>you have to grant time,</b>
684
01:29:28,933 --> 01:29:30,166
<b>sometimes it seems like it's not enough,</b>
685
01:29:30,533 --> 01:29:34,133
<b>imagine when there was a teacher for 24, 27 children,</b>
686
01:29:34,199 --> 01:29:34,933
<b>but how can she follow,</b>
687
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,233
<b>she can follow 3, 4,</b>
688
01:29:36,966 --> 01:29:38,333
<b>and here they fall behind,</b>
689
01:29:39,933 --> 01:29:41,766
<b>because there isn't time to be close to them,</b>
690
01:29:42,566 --> 01:29:43,966
<b>then these grades correspond,</b>
691
01:29:44,333 --> 01:29:48,766
<b>that mark you for what you can't do,</b>
692
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,199
<b>that you didn't say you can't do it,</b>
693
01:29:51,266 --> 01:29:53,066
<b>and that maybe at that moment it wasn't revealed,</b>
694
01:29:53,466 --> 01:29:55,000
<b>you need a little more time,</b>
695
01:29:55,066 --> 01:29:57,100
<b>you need another method, one more word,</b>
696
01:29:58,366 --> 01:30:00,500
<b>and unfortunately they are classified like this,</b>
697
01:30:00,566 --> 01:30:01,966
<b>we for example don't have grades,</b>
698
01:30:03,433 --> 01:30:05,333
<b>they are not useful,</b>
699
01:30:06,300 --> 01:30:07,100
<b>look, we are now,</b>
700
01:30:07,166 --> 01:30:08,000
<b>we are taking exams,</b>
701
01:30:08,333 --> 01:30:09,399
<b>because we have to every year,</b>
702
01:30:09,833 --> 01:30:11,300
<b>being a parent-led school,</b>
703
01:30:11,366 --> 01:30:13,066
<b>we have to interface</b>
704
01:30:13,300 --> 01:30:14,866
<b>with the orthodox school,</b>
705
01:30:14,933 --> 01:30:17,433
<b>which I was saying, you followed</b>
the ministerial program,
706
01:30:18,533 --> 01:30:20,333
<b>and these children are very bright,</b>
707
01:30:20,399 --> 01:30:22,100
<b>they complimented us for the first,</b>
708
01:30:22,166 --> 01:30:23,899
<b>for how the school was doing,</b>
709
01:30:23,966 --> 01:30:24,633
<b>for you that they told me,</b>
710
01:30:25,166 --> 01:30:26,000
<b>give me the phone,</b>
711
01:30:26,066 --> 01:30:27,633
<b>because some children freak out,</b>
712
01:30:27,699 --> 01:30:28,466
<b>they have problems,</b>
713
01:30:28,966 --> 01:30:30,666
<b>then they are calm, serene,</b>
714
01:30:30,899 --> 01:30:32,233
<b>doing their exercises,</b>
715
01:30:32,300 --> 01:30:34,266
<b>they passed them with brilliance,</b>
716
01:30:34,533 --> 01:30:35,933
<b>very calmly,</b>
717
01:30:36,633 --> 01:30:37,933
<b>because they are granted the space</b>
718
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,366
<b>and not the fear of the exam.</b>
719
01:30:58,533 --> 01:30:59,166
<b>The exam is always an aspect</b>
720
01:30:59,233 --> 01:31:01,533
<b>on which we try to teach them</b>
721
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:02,933
<b>to be more and more autonomous</b>
722
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,266
<b>and when they argue,</b>
723
01:31:05,833 --> 01:31:07,000
<b>in school normally,</b>
724
01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:07,633
<b>in the world,</b>
725
01:31:08,166 --> 01:31:08,366
<b>normally...</b>
726
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,133
<b>don't argue,</b>
727
01:31:10,366 --> 01:31:11,133
<b>stop arguing,</b>
728
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:14,966
<b>make peace, but who said that?</b>
729
01:31:15,033 --> 01:31:19,000
<b>You can argue, it's really part of</b>
the experience
730
01:31:19,066 --> 01:31:24,166
<b>of life, also of the children then so
much, so we don't</b>
731
01:31:24,233 --> 01:31:26,066
<b>ask the parents not to argue,</b>
732
01:31:26,133 --> 01:31:29,333
<b>but we try to learn together to
argue well, because</b>
733
01:31:29,399 --> 01:31:30,633
<b>there's a way to argue badly,</b>
734
01:31:30,899 --> 01:31:34,133
<b>if I want to destroy you, if I offend
you, if I</b>
735
01:31:34,199 --> 01:31:37,399
<b>hit you, but there's a way to argue</b>
736
01:31:37,533 --> 01:31:39,266
<b>well, we can take some time and then</b>
737
01:31:39,333 --> 01:31:42,199
<b>discuss what's happening. If you
want,</b>
738
01:31:42,266 --> 01:31:43,866
<b>afterwards I'll show you something,
a work</b>
739
01:31:43,933 --> 01:31:45,699
<b>that I did on these big parents,</b>
740
01:31:45,766 --> 01:31:49,266
<b>of the fifth grade, in no other
class that is below. The</b>
741
01:31:49,333 --> 01:31:52,766
<b>argument done, a healthy argument,</b>
742
01:31:52,833 --> 01:31:55,633
<b>where maybe there's even a shove
especially between males,</b>
743
01:31:56,133 --> 01:31:58,233
<b>usually they have a place that</b>
744
01:31:58,300 --> 01:32:02,800
<b>we call the conflict tent, they go in
there and</b>
745
01:32:02,866 --> 01:32:04,433
<b>argue and when they come out they
have made</b>
746
01:32:04,500 --> 01:32:07,500
<b>peace. This is a process, it's clear
that you don't do it with a</b>
747
01:32:07,566 --> 01:32:10,333
<b>two-year-old child, but it helps</b>
748
01:32:10,399 --> 01:32:14,966
<b>a lot because now we have mediators
for everything,</b>
749
01:32:15,300 --> 01:32:18,966
<b>it also becomes difficult to argue.</b>
750
01:32:19,566 --> 01:32:21,500
<b>This was really a good job, a</b>
751
01:32:21,566 --> 01:32:24,833
<b>It's a long work, it didn't happen in a day.</b>
752
01:32:25,300 --> 01:32:26,699
<b>Let's say these things are</b>
753
01:32:26,766 --> 01:32:31,366
<b>added. We're talking about the present.</b>
754
01:32:31,833 --> 01:32:34,833
<b>We're talking about the present because</b>
the mapping hour, the
755
01:32:34,899 --> 01:32:37,500
<b>trogherio, and now we're arguing about
this,</b>
756
01:32:37,566 --> 01:32:41,133
<b>let's stay here. Another interesting
thing was, let's see if I</b>
757
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:45,433
<b>find it, avoid saying where it is. We
use</b>
758
01:32:45,500 --> 01:32:49,566
<b>as little as possible, but it's always
nothing. Because we</b>
759
01:32:49,633 --> 01:32:51,300
<b>just found that when you start to</b>
760
01:32:51,366 --> 01:32:54,333
<b>say but you every time, we're already
lying,</b>
761
01:32:54,733 --> 01:32:57,399
<b>shamelessly, it's always possible,
every</b>
762
01:32:57,466 --> 01:32:58,500
<b>time or never.</b>
763
01:32:59,133 --> 01:33:01,000
<b>so also then bring the</b>
764
01:33:01,066 --> 01:33:05,633
<b>reality back to the truth, tell the
truth.</b>
765
01:33:07,899 --> 01:33:08,133
<b>Beautiful!</b>
766
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:10,899
<b>Making small ones, this is also
beautiful,</b>
767
01:33:11,266 --> 01:33:15,600
<b>she's a very bright girl, making small
changes,</b>
768
01:33:15,666 --> 01:33:17,966
<b>oneself, if needed.</b>
769
01:33:19,866 --> 01:33:22,500
<b>Now you understand that when you as a</b>
770
01:33:22,566 --> 01:33:25,833
<b>school dedicate time to this,</b>
771
01:33:26,699 --> 01:33:28,133
<b>obviously you can't follow the</b>
772
01:33:28,199 --> 01:33:30,966
<b>subsidiaries, don't do it to yourself,
what they want.</b>
773
01:33:31,433 --> 01:33:34,533
<b>But I think this is what the school
should give,</b>
774
01:33:35,033 --> 01:33:36,399
<b>teach children to</b>
775
01:33:36,466 --> 01:33:38,366
<b>express themselves, to try to have
respect,</b>
776
01:33:38,666 --> 01:33:39,866
<b>stay within a community.</b>
777
01:33:41,766 --> 01:33:47,233
<b>No? Because then the history of
mathematicians program,</b>
778
01:33:47,300 --> 01:33:48,366
<b>there's the ristrador, they will repeat</b>
779
01:33:48,433 --> 01:33:50,100
<b>middle school then, high school then,</b>
780
01:33:50,166 --> 01:33:53,100
<b>the university, doesn't care.</b>
781
01:33:53,533 --> 01:33:54,133
<b>Why are you important?</b>
782
01:33:55,500 --> 01:33:57,433
<b>Because you have formed a social
individual.</b>
783
01:33:57,899 --> 01:33:59,399
<b>Exactly, precisely this, you haven't</b>
784
01:33:59,466 --> 01:34:02,133
<b>formed an individual in relationships.</b>
785
01:34:02,633 --> 01:34:08,466
<b>But on the topic of time, if nature and
its time,</b>
786
01:34:08,699 --> 01:34:12,600
<b>perhaps it's also good that we human
beings, who are nature,</b>
787
01:34:12,666 --> 01:34:14,699
<b>also carve out our own times.</b>
788
01:34:14,766 --> 01:34:16,199
<b>There is a time to do things</b>
789
01:34:16,266 --> 01:34:18,800
<b>faster, for activity,</b>
790
01:34:18,866 --> 01:34:19,966
<b>a time to rest.</b>
791
01:34:21,300 --> 01:34:22,866
<b>As nature takes it, maybe</b>
792
01:34:22,933 --> 01:34:24,300
<b>we can try to take it too.</b>
793
01:34:24,933 --> 01:34:29,366
<b>And so this impact,</b>
794
01:34:29,733 --> 01:34:32,899
<b>it certainly has it, and it is a</b>
795
01:34:32,966 --> 01:34:34,600
<b>very strong educational message too,</b>
796
01:34:34,666 --> 01:34:36,066
<b>that of respecting one's own rhythm.</b>
797
01:34:37,833 --> 01:34:40,066
<b>Our times are the times of children.</b>
798
01:34:40,866 --> 01:34:42,933
<b>So if a child shows that they</b>
799
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:44,899
<b>have interest in something,</b>
800
01:34:45,833 --> 01:34:47,466
<b>a response is given to that interest,
one</b>
801
01:34:47,533 --> 01:34:49,233
<b>try to respond to that interest,</b>
802
01:34:49,966 --> 01:34:53,366
<b>if the child does not show interest,</b>
803
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,566
<b>we have to wonder why.</b>
804
01:34:55,833 --> 01:34:57,633
<b>Maybe we need to work on something</b>
805
01:34:57,699 --> 01:34:59,600
<b>else before literacy.</b>
806
01:35:01,699 --> 01:35:06,166
<b>Of course, when they get to reading</b>
<b>and writing,</b>
807
01:35:06,666 --> 01:35:12,533
<b>that you find them, they don't leave</b>
<b>the house,</b>
808
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,233
<b>if they don't have their notebook,</b>
<b>the notepad with the pencil,</b>
809
01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:18,433
<b>because they have to write down</b>
<b>what happens,</b>
810
01:35:18,433 --> 01:35:20,466
<b>c'abbia danno era lubido il quaderno</b>
<b>così. ok</b>
811
01:36:43,133 --> 01:36:48,633
<b>In fact, this is the first place where</b>
812
01:36:48,699 --> 01:36:52,433
<b>they do the assemblè with all the</b>
<b>trots.</b>
813
01:36:54,533 --> 01:36:59,633
<b>They decide what to do during the</b>
<b>day and then del</b>
814
01:36:59,699 --> 01:37:01,733
<b>qualsiaspato there is the other classroom.</b>
815
01:37:02,133 --> 01:37:10,566
<b>This is creating space for reading.</b>
816
01:37:13,133 --> 01:37:17,333
<b>It's the most beautiful I've ever seen!</b>
817
01:37:29,966 --> 01:37:31,600
<b>It's the most beautiful I've ever seen!</b>
818
01:37:31,666 --> 01:37:32,066
<b>Really!</b>
819
01:37:32,133 --> 01:37:41,100
<b>It is not the same as someone telling</b>
<b>you how things are, but how they really are</b>
820
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:41,133
<b>It is not the same as someone telling</b>
<b>you how things are, but how they really are</b>
821
01:37:41,133 --> 01:37:48,399
<b>how you experience a leaf and not</b>
<b>look at it in a drawing,</b>
822
01:37:48,466 --> 01:37:53,600
<b>but look at it live, touch it, all</b>
<b>the senses come</b>
823
01:37:53,666 --> 01:37:57,066
<b>It's not the same, that's what I</b>
<b>can tell you</b>
824
01:37:57,133 --> 01:38:00,633
<b>Using all the senses is another thing</b>
<b>I can tell you It's something I can tell</b>
<b>you, that I can tell you It's something</b>
<b>I can tell you, that I can tell you It's</b>
<b>something I can tell you, that I can tell</b>
<b>you This is what I can tell you</b>
825
01:38:00,699 --> 01:38:03,133
<b>Using all the senses to learn</b>
826
01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:06,600
<b>That's what remains in the child</b>
827
01:38:06,666 --> 01:38:09,000
<b>He makes his own hypotheses</b>
828
01:38:09,066 --> 01:38:13,666
<b>There is no theory that came from</b>
<b>someone</b>
829
01:38:13,733 --> 01:38:15,600
<b>And I have to take it by force, but</b>
830
01:38:15,666 --> 01:38:20,333
<b>I experiment I make my hypotheses,</b>
<b>my delusions</b>
831
01:38:20,399 --> 01:38:23,066
<b>I get there alone</b>
832
01:38:23,133 --> 01:38:27,066
<b>We are companions in this process</b>
833
01:38:27,133 --> 01:38:30,699
<b>Let's try to</b>
834
01:38:31,399 --> 01:38:34,600
<b>to bring out that desire to learn</b>
<b>children</b>
835
01:38:34,666 --> 01:38:37,766
<b>So, if instead you push from that</b>
836
01:38:38,133 --> 01:38:39,266
<b>Is that the one?</b>
837
01:38:39,666 --> 01:38:41,699
<b>Yes, it's two hours</b>
838
01:38:41,766 --> 01:38:43,899
<b>Yes, but we are all able, I don't</b>
<b>loco it</b>
839
01:38:43,966 --> 01:38:46,033
<b>How nice for you, canna</b>
840
01:38:47,133 --> 01:38:49,899
<b>In my opinion all dogs are beautiful</b>
841
01:38:49,966 --> 01:38:51,000
<b>Yes</b>
842
01:38:52,133 --> 01:38:54,833
<b>My young people are spanning</b>
<b>appiando le panno</b>
843
01:38:54,899 --> 01:38:58,100
<b>And today for example they made mint</b>
844
01:38:58,166 --> 01:38:59,699
<b>They made mint and water, they have</b>
845
01:38:59,766 --> 01:39:01,366
<b>made bibi, they made as a group</b>
846
01:39:01,433 --> 01:39:02,899
<b>They worked, because there was</b>
847
01:39:02,966 --> 01:39:04,666
<b>the vegetable garden, there was a lot</b>
<b>of mint</b>
848
01:39:04,733 --> 01:39:08,866
<b>So it also becomes a spontaneous</b>
<b>laboratory</b>
849
01:39:09,133 --> 01:39:11,133
<b>Because I finished the team, I did a</b>
<b>method all'alto</b>
850
01:39:11,199 --> 01:39:13,133
<b>But it's what you like</b>
851
01:39:15,133 --> 01:39:20,199
<b>Always with the double idea of making</b>
852
01:39:20,266 --> 01:39:23,199
<b>subjects a little more enjoyable for them.</b>
853
01:39:23,266 --> 01:39:26,033
<b>Anyway, getting down to growing crystals.</b>
854
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:28,433
<b>Yes, yes, yes, you were only in copper.</b>
855
01:39:29,133 --> 01:39:31,233
<b>Which, incidentally, is used in agriculture.</b>
856
01:39:31,300 --> 01:39:32,966
<b>It's a simplicity.</b>
857
01:39:33,133 --> 01:39:37,333
<b>They are very beautiful, we did the whole
procedure as</b>
858
01:39:37,399 --> 01:39:38,733
<b>you do to grow a crystal.</b>
859
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,333
<b>By doing that, you explain things to them,</b>
860
01:39:40,399 --> 01:39:42,833
<b>you explain the solubility of salts.</b>
861
01:39:43,399 --> 01:39:47,199
<b>You explain, um, well, not loads of things.</b>
862
01:39:47,266 --> 01:39:47,933
<b>But you explain a bit of</b>
863
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,399
<b>basic chemistry that they don't have.</b>
864
01:39:50,466 --> 01:39:53,100
<b>And by doing it this way, however, this
thing enters</b>
865
01:39:53,166 --> 01:39:55,533
<b>not only in a theoretical, narrated way.</b>
866
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,366
<b>I can tell you what solubility was.</b>
867
01:39:57,433 --> 01:39:59,666
<b>But you won't remember it after a week,
will you?</b>
868
01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:01,033
<b>After you've made the</b>
869
01:40:01,100 --> 01:40:04,333
<b>crystal, I think this thing remains.</b>
870
01:40:04,399 --> 01:40:08,566
<b>Eh, children learned to know plants by
drawing them.</b>
871
01:40:08,633 --> 01:40:11,833
<b>Because by drawing them you look at the
details.</b>
872
01:40:12,399 --> 01:40:16,366
<b>And looking at the details, you, no?</b>
873
01:40:16,766 --> 01:40:17,633
<b>It takes you inside.</b>
874
01:40:18,133 --> 01:40:21,100
<b>And in fact this discourse of making observe.</b>
875
01:40:21,166 --> 01:40:26,100
<b>They have some very beautiful systems,
a system for example</b>
876
01:40:26,166 --> 01:40:29,766
<b>To spread any type of cultural message.</b>
877
01:40:30,133 --> 01:40:31,033
<b>It's the theater.</b>
878
01:40:32,133 --> 01:40:33,699
<b>People arrive who are</b>
879
01:40:33,766 --> 01:40:35,399
<b>prepared on a certain topic.</b>
880
01:40:35,466 --> 01:40:38,199
<b>They arrive in the village, they have a show.</b>
881
01:40:38,266 --> 01:40:40,266
<b>And they tell and...</b>
882
01:40:41,133 --> 01:40:44,166
<b>So even the children, no, I am this plant here.</b>
883
01:40:44,233 --> 01:40:46,133
<b>And I do this, this and this, no?</b>
884
01:40:47,333 --> 01:40:48,800
<b>The goal is not to be outside.</b>
885
01:40:49,133 --> 01:40:50,633
<b>If children want to be inside</b>
886
01:40:50,699 --> 01:40:53,233
<b>they have the right to feel like being inside.</b>
887
01:40:53,300 --> 01:40:55,566
<b>This is another thing that I bring</b>
888
01:40:55,633 --> 01:40:57,533
<b>always when talking about outdoor schools.</b>
889
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,100
<b>The outdoors cannot be the goal.</b>
890
01:41:00,166 --> 01:41:01,733
<b>The outdoors is the means and the</b>
891
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,100
<b>frame, it is a very powerful tool.</b>
892
01:41:04,166 --> 01:41:07,733
<b>A beautiful dimension but it cannot be the end.</b>
893
01:41:08,266 --> 01:41:11,100
<b>The goal is the well-being of children.</b>
894
01:41:11,166 --> 01:41:13,133
<b>And so here when the Montana wind blows.</b>
895
01:41:13,199 --> 01:41:17,399
<b>Nature is beautiful, the sky is perhaps
blue, there is the winter</b>
896
01:41:17,466 --> 01:41:18,800
<b>beautiful, autumnal beautiful.</b>
897
01:41:18,866 --> 01:41:22,733
<b>One dies of cold or opens the notebook and
wants to</b>
898
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:23,899
<b>start because there is too much wind.</b>
899
01:41:23,966 --> 01:41:25,666
<b>Then we go inside.</b>
900
01:41:26,133 --> 01:41:30,633
<b>And then it's beautiful, nature is a
continuous source.</b>
901
01:41:30,699 --> 01:41:33,899
<b>Of research, of stimuli, of questions</b>
902
01:41:34,133 --> 01:41:36,933
<b>Something that is sorely lacking</b>
903
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:38,833
<b>in the schools where I worked</b>
904
01:41:38,899 --> 01:41:42,399
<b>Is the possibility for children, space</b>
<b>for questions</b>
905
01:41:42,466 --> 01:41:44,233
<b>Both for children but also for adults</b>
906
01:41:44,366 --> 01:41:46,533
<b>Last year we arrived here in</b>
907
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:48,500
<b>this paradise and you say if you say</b>
908
01:41:48,566 --> 01:41:49,833
<b>Girefano, but that is a small hand</b>
909
01:41:50,133 --> 01:41:52,666
<b>I remember, last year we made the</b>
<b>little house</b>
910
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:56,733
<b>And there were few stones, there were 3-4</b>
911
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,066
<b>there were some things left over from</b>
<b>last year</b>
912
01:41:59,133 --> 01:42:02,833
<b>Piampiani the shifts made, until they</b>
<b>went today, they made that hut</b>
913
01:42:02,899 --> 01:42:04,433
<b>today, they made that hut</b>
914
01:42:05,133 --> 01:42:08,100
<b>But it's all theirs, that is, it wasn't</b>
<b>that, in short, it was in</b>
915
01:42:08,166 --> 01:42:10,066
<b>boredom, we let them make the hut there</b>
916
01:42:10,133 --> 01:42:13,300
<b>No, it all started like this from this</b>
<b>child who remembered</b>
917
01:42:13,366 --> 01:42:17,566
<b>Then he brought his group from the</b>
<b>first shift</b>
918
01:42:17,633 --> 01:42:19,600
<b>And Piampiani then the various shifts</b>
<b>that have</b>
919
01:42:19,666 --> 01:42:23,266
<b>came later continued the whole thing</b>
920
01:42:23,333 --> 01:42:25,866
<b>And that hut, that little house, came out</b>
921
01:42:27,133 --> 01:42:29,333
<b>Who was cooking?</b>
922
01:42:30,866 --> 01:42:31,600
<b>The pasta</b>
923
01:42:31,666 --> 01:42:32,633
<b>Yes</b>
924
01:42:33,233 --> 01:42:35,600
<b>Yes? With lemons?</b>
925
01:42:36,133 --> 01:42:37,466
<b>Yes, with you</b>
926
01:42:38,133 --> 01:42:39,266
<b>With your ghici</b>
927
01:42:39,333 --> 01:42:44,666
<b>How fragrant</b>
928
01:42:45,133 --> 01:42:46,466
<b>Hold on</b>
929
01:42:47,133 --> 01:42:48,233
<b>So you put it in the pasta</b>
930
01:42:51,466 --> 01:42:53,933
<b>Already sometimes in the services</b>
931
01:42:54,133 --> 01:42:56,733
<b>Plastic plates are placed with</b>
932
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:58,600
<b>flour etc. on top, to be manipulated</b>
933
01:42:58,666 --> 01:43:00,699
<b>Those things to manipulate there is</b>
934
01:43:00,766 --> 01:43:02,766
<b>sand, there are the leaves that rustle</b>
<b>the year</b>
935
01:43:03,133 --> 01:43:07,066
<b>So they are put exactly, that I must say</b>
936
01:43:07,133 --> 01:43:10,533
<b>Yes, and then they go looking for them,</b>
<b>in the sense that while</b>
937
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:15,733
<b>at the silo, that is, indoors we have to</b>
<b>create these things ourselves</b>
938
01:43:16,133 --> 01:43:17,899
<b>In the sense we must assume that the</b>
<b>child in that</b>
939
01:43:17,966 --> 01:43:20,066
<b>moment needs to do this type of</b>
<b>experience</b>
940
01:43:20,133 --> 01:43:24,633
<b>What I try to say also to the</b>
<b>educators who are</b>
941
01:43:24,699 --> 01:43:26,933
<b>now in training with this space</b>
942
01:43:27,133 --> 01:43:30,000
<b>We try to follow instead of observing</b>
<b>the child in their</b>
943
01:43:30,066 --> 01:43:33,600
<b>requests, in the needs that they go</b>
<b>to manifest</b>
944
01:43:33,666 --> 01:43:34,666
<b>Sometimes there is no need to</b>
945
01:43:34,733 --> 01:43:36,866
<b>do anything, as Montessori says</b>
946
01:43:37,133 --> 01:43:39,833
<b>That is, the educator must become</b>
<b>invisible</b>
947
01:43:40,133 --> 01:43:44,066
<b>Because the child goes to look, in fact,</b>
<b>goes to manipulate</b>
948
01:43:44,133 --> 01:43:46,333
<b>The earth if he needs this type of</b>
<b>stimulus, goes to</b>
949
01:43:46,399 --> 01:43:48,633
<b>feel the leaves, will be autonomous</b>
950
01:43:48,699 --> 01:43:52,533
<b>in going to satisfy his needs</b>
951
01:43:52,933 --> 01:43:55,000
<b>You see this space as very free, but I</b>
952
01:43:55,066 --> 01:43:58,100
<b>see it propped up with support points</b>
953
01:43:58,166 --> 01:44:00,633
<b>So that a child who still maybe of attona</b>
954
01:44:00,699 --> 01:44:02,899
<b>doesn't need a little hand</b>
955
01:44:02,966 --> 01:44:04,633
<b>from the educator to pull themselves up</b>
956
01:44:04,699 --> 01:44:08,633
<b>Maybe they'll find a spot to get close and</b>
957
01:44:08,699 --> 01:44:11,166
<b>two close supports can tend to</b>
958
01:44:11,233 --> 01:44:12,933
<b>take the step adorably, for example</b>
959
01:44:13,133 --> 01:44:17,899
<b>That's what I see in structuring the space</b>
960
01:44:18,133 --> 01:44:20,433
<b>Hey, tell me!</b>
961
01:44:21,466 --> 01:44:23,633
<b>What?</b>
962
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:25,533
<b>Arge!</b>
963
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,433
<b>What's she eating? Arge!</b>
964
01:44:28,133 --> 01:44:29,633
<b>She's eating backward, but I'll do it</b>
965
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:34,066
<b>We say nature is the teacher, she is the</b>
966
01:44:34,133 --> 01:44:37,666
<b>In the sense that it's already so</b>
967
01:44:39,133 --> 01:44:45,399
<b>predisposed to naturally helping children</b>
968
01:44:45,466 --> 01:44:48,733
<b>to do and experience their things</b>
969
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:53,733
<b>Of comovement, because at festivity too,</b>
970
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:57,133
<b>picking up even from the little ones,</b>
971
01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:03,066
<b>movement is one of the things</b>
972
01:45:03,133 --> 01:45:06,566
<b>of the primary needs that children, well,</b>
973
01:45:06,633 --> 01:45:08,666
<b>they uspano, no? I realize how quickly</b>
974
01:45:08,733 --> 01:45:10,733
<b>you lose the habit of using your body in</b>
975
01:45:12,166 --> 01:45:14,633
<b>the way young people do</b>
976
01:45:14,699 --> 01:45:16,666
<b>But obviously, this is why everything</b>
977
01:45:16,733 --> 01:45:18,933
<b>seems dangerous to us when we see nature</b>
978
01:45:19,133 --> 01:45:20,899
<b>Ah, because it's an environment you don't</b>
979
01:45:20,966 --> 01:45:23,066
<b>If you don't frequent it, you have a</b>
980
01:45:23,133 --> 01:45:25,533
<b>perception of danger that is widespread</b>
981
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,666
<b>Everything is somehow dangerous</b>
982
01:45:28,133 --> 01:45:30,000
<b>even if it isn't really, but I don't know it</b>
983
01:45:32,566 --> 01:45:35,699
<b>And so I remain wary, right?</b>
984
01:45:35,766 --> 01:45:39,233
<b>And then absurdly we're using</b>
985
01:45:39,300 --> 01:45:42,733
<b>gas cylinders at home, we use electricity</b>
986
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,766
<b>We have, right? A whole series of</b>
987
01:45:47,300 --> 01:45:51,966
<b>extremely dangerous things at our disposal</b>
988
01:45:52,033 --> 01:45:54,366
<b>daily, and we don't even think about it</b>
989
01:45:54,433 --> 01:45:58,033
<b>It's clear that if an environment seems</b>
990
01:45:58,133 --> 01:46:00,800
<b>far from our daily experience</b>
991
01:46:00,866 --> 01:46:02,766
<b>It appears dangerous, mysterious, a place</b>
992
01:46:03,133 --> 01:46:06,333
<b>not to trust And this is the start</b>
993
01:46:07,133 --> 01:46:12,399
<b>of Nature Education, here in Italy</b>
994
01:46:12,466 --> 01:46:15,566
<b>Many still want to bring children outside</b>
995
01:46:16,133 --> 01:46:17,133
<b>But then at the first moment the dark is</b>
996
01:46:18,199 --> 01:46:20,533
<b>dangerous, in the woods you could find</b>
997
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,033
<b>the misunderstanding, the malicious person</b>
998
01:46:23,133 --> 01:46:25,133
<b>There, I wanted to say, sorry</b>
999
01:46:25,199 --> 01:46:27,266
<b>It's more likely to find them in Milan, at</b>
1000
01:46:28,833 --> 01:46:32,833
<b>the central station, than in a forest</b>
1001
01:46:33,133 --> 01:46:37,633
<b>Of course there are dangers in
Nature, but these derive</b>
1002
01:46:37,699 --> 01:46:39,133
<b>from the disconnection that we
have</b>
1003
01:46:39,199 --> 01:46:41,166
<b>and from not knowing this
environment</b>
1004
01:46:41,233 --> 01:46:45,666
<b>In Sicily, the culture is a bit like
this</b>
1005
01:46:46,133 --> 01:46:49,533
<b>of going to cement, to
cementify, to go to</b>
1006
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,333
<b>equalize them, to make a space of
land, it is dirty</b>
1007
01:46:53,133 --> 01:46:57,333
<b>In my opinion, there is nothing
propulsive from the earth</b>
1008
01:46:58,133 --> 01:46:59,933
<b>Especially in this period, right?</b>
1009
01:47:01,433 --> 01:47:03,833
<b>We had all these things, this</b>
1010
01:47:03,899 --> 01:47:07,399
<b>sanitization, these sanitizing
products</b>
1011
01:47:07,466 --> 01:47:09,166
<b>Yet how clean it seemed to me</b>
1012
01:47:09,233 --> 01:47:11,833
<b>to be able to touch the earth, right?</b>
1013
01:47:12,133 --> 01:47:15,500
<b>When a child approaches the knife,
he approaches</b>
1014
01:47:15,566 --> 01:47:17,833
<b>lighting the fire, climbing a tree</b>
1015
01:47:18,133 --> 01:47:20,000
<b>What we do as adults and</b>
1016
01:47:20,066 --> 01:47:24,366
<b>as the role of the adult should be</b>
1017
01:47:24,433 --> 01:47:28,899
<b>is to be next to him, accompany
him and make sure that there is</b>
1018
01:47:28,966 --> 01:47:32,433
<b>absolutely that everything is done
in total safety</b>
1019
01:47:32,500 --> 01:47:34,566
<b>We never put children in</b>
1020
01:47:34,633 --> 01:47:37,066
<b>danger, this is very clear</b>
1021
01:47:37,133 --> 01:47:39,899
<b>In a dangerous situation</b>
1022
01:47:39,966 --> 01:47:42,399
<b>the adult always protects the child</b>
1023
01:47:42,466 --> 01:47:45,366
<b>While risk has a value</b>
1024
01:47:45,433 --> 01:47:47,100
<b>precisely in terms of growth</b>
1025
01:47:47,166 --> 01:47:49,899
<b>Because the child can experiment
and</b>
1026
01:47:49,966 --> 01:47:52,366
<b>can each time, how to say,
calibrate</b>
1027
01:47:52,433 --> 01:47:55,500
<b>But he does it normally, he does it
when he eats</b>
1028
01:47:55,566 --> 01:47:57,866
<b>something, he does it when he
crosses the road</b>
1029
01:47:57,933 --> 01:48:01,066
<b>He does it when he climbs a ladder,
he does it in any context</b>
1030
01:48:01,133 --> 01:48:04,966
<b>Only here you are outside of what
are</b>
1031
01:48:05,033 --> 01:48:09,433
<b>the certainties of those who live in
this society</b>
1032
01:48:09,866 --> 01:48:11,333
<b>To say, the car is much more</b>
1033
01:48:11,399 --> 01:48:13,566
<b>dangerous than being in the woods</b>
1034
01:48:13,699 --> 01:48:15,066
<b>But we are used to going in the</b>
1035
01:48:15,133 --> 01:48:17,833
<b>car and maybe we don't think about
this anymore</b>
1036
01:48:18,566 --> 01:48:21,500
<b>But in fact for a child climbing a
tree or using</b>
1037
01:48:21,566 --> 01:48:23,166
<b>a knife, lighting a fire</b>
1038
01:48:23,233 --> 01:48:28,233
<b>It's not like that, yes, it has that
risk, but in</b>
1039
01:48:28,300 --> 01:48:30,066
<b>reality the child proves to be very
competent</b>
1040
01:48:30,133 --> 01:48:32,500
<b>Because if he uses the knife badly
he cuts himself,</b>
1041
01:48:32,566 --> 01:48:34,733
<b>if he gets too close to the fire he
burns himself</b>
1042
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,866
<b>If he goes up a tree and doesn't
know how to do it, he falls</b>
1043
01:48:38,233 --> 01:48:40,933
<b>So he self, how to say, the</b>
1044
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:46,100
<b>group limits him very clearly</b>
1045
01:48:46,166 --> 01:48:50,933
<b>Apparently, yes, in reality there is
no</b>
1046
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,366
<b>need from more of an educational
point of view</b>
1047
01:48:53,433 --> 01:48:55,033
<b>In terms of this, there is a need to</b>
1048
01:48:55,100 --> 01:48:57,699
<b>accompany, there is a need to be an
example</b>
1049
01:48:58,699 --> 01:49:00,533
<b>Not to say how to do something,</b>
1050
01:49:01,233 --> 01:49:04,433
<b>that's not it, there is a need for
mentoring</b>
1051
01:49:05,133 --> 01:49:08,133
<b>Not educators, in that sense.</b>
1052
01:49:08,366 --> 01:49:13,333
<b>I facilitate, and with this you'll</b>
<b>become what you want to be.</b>
1053
01:49:15,133 --> 01:49:17,266
<b>Instead of becoming something that</b>
1054
01:49:17,333 --> 01:49:19,000
<b>someone else told you to become.</b>
1055
01:49:20,533 --> 01:49:25,633
<b>There's a dilemma; we developed</b>
<b>identity as adults.</b>
1056
01:49:25,699 --> 01:49:28,100
<b>Work identity, private personal identity.</b>
1057
01:49:28,166 --> 01:49:32,433
<b>Which is a great pity, to say, I</b>
<b>don't know, the fight goes in</b>
1058
01:49:32,500 --> 01:49:33,866
<b>the factory with the Levites, and at</b>
1059
01:49:33,933 --> 01:49:35,933
<b>6 PM you return home and are the</b>
<b>artist.</b>
1060
01:49:36,133 --> 01:49:37,433
<b>And write poems.</b>
1061
01:49:38,133 --> 01:49:41,000
<b>This is a bit of the classic trend,</b>
<b>that there's a work identity.</b>
1062
01:49:41,066 --> 01:49:42,066
<b>The private identity.</b>
1063
01:49:42,133 --> 01:49:45,933
<b>There is a sort of decision between</b>
<b>being and feeling.</b>
1064
01:49:46,133 --> 01:49:49,566
<b>I'm a worker but I feel like an artist.</b>
1065
01:49:50,466 --> 01:49:54,399
<b>And bringing this together is nature</b>
<b>that does this, every</b>
1066
01:49:54,466 --> 01:49:57,133
<b>being is exactly what it feels to be.</b>
1067
01:49:57,766 --> 01:49:59,800
<b>It would be nice if it were like</b>
<b>that for us humans too.</b>
1068
01:50:01,133 --> 01:50:03,633
<b>Now I'll show you how I relight the</b>
<b>fire.</b>
1069
01:50:04,133 --> 01:50:09,633
<b>The fire is me behind it; it turns</b>
<b>immediately.</b>
1070
01:50:10,133 --> 01:50:11,233
<b>Did you see, guys?</b>
1071
01:50:11,300 --> 01:50:17,699
<b>It's very hot but...</b>
1072
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:27,433
<b>It can be lit very easily.</b>
1073
01:50:35,733 --> 01:50:38,333
<b>Help, help, mess, away, start now.</b>
1074
01:50:38,399 --> 01:50:39,333
<b>Look at the dazzi.</b>
1075
01:50:40,133 --> 01:50:44,966
<b>Now I'll show you where I get the</b>
<b>wood, paper, and everything.</b>
1076
01:50:47,133 --> 01:50:50,800
<b>This wood shed, it looks ugly, but...</b>
1077
01:50:52,733 --> 01:50:54,066
<b>Trust me, it's beautiful.</b>
1078
01:50:56,133 --> 01:51:00,666
<b>Trust me that it holds up, it's not</b>
<b>beautiful, but it's great.</b>
1079
01:51:04,833 --> 01:51:05,133
<b>Now...</b>
1080
01:51:22,666 --> 01:51:24,933
<b>Did you see? This is just a lesson.</b>
1081
01:51:26,133 --> 01:51:29,166
<b>Here, something to do together.</b>
1082
01:51:29,366 --> 01:51:31,066
<b>Bring children, bring the magpie.</b>
1083
01:51:31,133 --> 01:51:34,699
<b>Even just a minimum of curiosity,</b>
<b>try to amplify it.</b>
1084
01:51:34,766 --> 01:51:36,833
<b>And then develop it towards this sector.</b>
1085
01:51:36,899 --> 01:51:38,333
<b>It's not that they also have to</b>
<b>become farmers.</b>
1086
01:51:38,399 --> 01:51:39,066
<b>But simply that they don't.</b>
1087
01:51:39,133 --> 01:51:40,600
<b>Be afraid of taking a walk.</b>
1088
01:51:40,666 --> 01:51:43,500
<b>In a field with some kissing and</b>
<b>with.</b>
1089
01:51:43,566 --> 01:51:45,133
<b>The little insects that touch you.</b>
1090
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:46,266
<b>That's already...</b>
1091
01:51:47,899 --> 01:51:52,399
<b>It would have an impact on a</b>
<b>psychological and sociological level.</b>
1092
01:51:52,466 --> 01:51:54,933
<b>And very important in my opinion,</b>
<b>really important.</b>
1093
01:51:55,133 --> 01:51:57,833
<b>And that one of the most dangerous</b>
<b>things that.</b>
1094
01:51:57,899 --> 01:51:59,066
<b>Can happen when you are in nature.</b>
1095
01:51:59,133 --> 01:52:01,500
<b>Is being disconnected from yourself.</b>
1096
01:52:02,166 --> 01:52:04,166
<b>Yes, not being present in the here and now.</b>
1097
01:52:04,733 --> 01:52:06,633
<b>If you aren't, obviously you fall</b>
<b>into a mistake.</b>
1098
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:09,366
<b>That is, walking in nature...</b>
1099
01:52:10,133 --> 01:52:13,533
<b>Clearly nature teaches you to be</b>
<b>present.</b>
1100
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:15,899
<b>Don't think too much about yesterday,</b>
<b>don't think too much about tomorrow.</b>
1101
01:52:15,966 --> 01:52:19,000
<b>But being in the here and now is a</b>
1102
01:52:19,066 --> 01:52:20,833
<b>beautiful lesson from my natural environments</b>
1103
01:52:20,899 --> 01:52:23,166
<b>And this is something that happens here in the fields</b>
1104
01:52:23,733 --> 01:52:25,966
<b>It's very cool because so many adults</b>
1105
01:52:27,133 --> 01:52:30,600
<b>are really recovering a relationship with human nature</b>
1106
01:52:30,666 --> 01:52:32,666
<b>Which is nothing more than wild nature</b>
1107
01:52:33,133 --> 01:52:35,300
<b>Human nature no longer exists, etc.</b>
1108
01:52:35,833 --> 01:52:40,733
<b>That is, you're creating a split between yourself and the outside</b>
1109
01:52:41,466 --> 01:52:44,199
<b>How would I say, let's create a split between you and nature</b>
1110
01:52:44,266 --> 01:52:47,399
<b>Which is not a split between you and nature, understood as</b>
1111
01:52:47,466 --> 01:52:50,533
<b>the trees, the landscapes, the streams, etc.</b>
1112
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:52,066
<b>Between you and nature, which is you</b>
1113
01:52:52,133 --> 01:52:59,800
<b>That is, the you, as they say, is the</b>
1114
01:52:59,866 --> 01:53:03,399
<b>primarily rational part that splits from being</b>
1115
01:53:03,466 --> 01:53:07,933
<b>From the as you are, psychically and physically</b>
1116
01:53:08,133 --> 01:53:12,566
<b>Now, the benefits or the teachings that a life with</b>
1117
01:53:12,633 --> 01:53:16,266
<b>nature can bring, well</b>
1118
01:53:16,333 --> 01:53:17,066
<b>they are countless, in the sense</b>
1119
01:53:17,133 --> 01:53:24,199
<b>It depends a little on the approach a person has</b>
1120
01:53:24,266 --> 01:53:26,833
<b>Some experiences with nature, from</b>
1121
01:53:26,899 --> 01:53:29,766
<b>a trek to an agricultural experience</b>
1122
01:53:30,133 --> 01:53:31,399
<b>For sure</b>
1123
01:53:32,133 --> 01:53:37,300
<b>What we all have in common in this team is the</b>
1124
01:53:37,366 --> 01:53:40,366
<b>passion, the passion for life, right?</b>
1125
01:53:40,966 --> 01:53:42,866
<b>If we are trying to make</b>
1126
01:53:42,933 --> 01:53:44,100
<b>plants be born, grow</b>
1127
01:53:45,133 --> 01:53:52,166
<b>And we realize that it's not just a harvest, but it's</b>
1128
01:53:52,233 --> 01:53:54,033
<b>growing with them, for us</b>
1129
01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:58,033
<b>In turn, we receive a teaching from the plant that</b>
1130
01:53:58,100 --> 01:53:59,666
<b>blooms, there is the bud that is born, that grows</b>
1131
01:53:59,733 --> 01:54:03,699
<b>Which then degenerates, which is tangible, tangible in us</b>
1132
01:54:03,766 --> 01:54:09,199
<b>A kind of symbolism that however is</b>
1133
01:54:09,266 --> 01:54:12,100
<b>very concrete in everyday life</b>
1134
01:54:13,133 --> 01:54:15,733
<b>I think that even on a human level it is</b>
1135
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:17,933
<b>quite natural that the people who were involved</b>
1136
01:54:18,133 --> 01:54:22,466
<b>With agriculture, with the practical act of cultivating, with</b>
1137
01:54:22,533 --> 01:54:25,433
<b>with an awareness, in short, with a certain dedication</b>
1138
01:54:26,133 --> 01:54:30,466
<b>To have fairly important benefits</b>
1139
01:54:31,433 --> 01:54:34,199
<b>There is nature that helps, helps to pamper, in the sense</b>
1140
01:54:34,266 --> 01:54:39,100
<b>that there was a much more relaxed atmosphere</b>
1141
01:54:40,133 --> 01:54:43,500
<b>And in my opinion, this thing helped</b>
1142
01:54:43,566 --> 01:54:47,733
<b>you, than the boys, in the laboratory</b>
1143
01:54:48,133 --> 01:54:53,500
<b>And the environment, this is the fact that... I remember my</b>
1144
01:54:53,566 --> 01:54:55,699
<b>grandmother saying when she was nervous</b>
1145
01:54:55,766 --> 01:54:59,066
<b>Look at the green, that the green relaxes</b>
1146
01:55:03,933 --> 01:55:11,699
<b>To feel that we are part of an intelligent system, of a</b>
1147
01:55:11,766 --> 01:55:17,699
<b>single large macro organism that is that has an intelligence</b>
1148
01:55:19,300 --> 01:55:24,100
<b>That is, plants have intelligence, animals,</b>
1149
01:55:24,166 --> 01:55:26,500
<b>insects, we are all equipped</b>
1150
01:55:26,566 --> 01:55:30,266
<b>to be able to communicate with each other</b>
1151
01:55:30,333 --> 01:55:31,833
<b>Everyone, that is...</b>
1152
01:56:19,133 --> 01:56:20,266
<b>It doesn't move anymore</b>
1153
01:56:35,733 --> 01:56:38,966
<b>I found this incredible, beautiful</b>
<b>spot</b>
1154
01:56:39,133 --> 01:56:41,699
<b>And then I said, but what do we really</b>
<b>need?</b>
1155
01:56:42,933 --> 01:56:44,100
<b>Really, what do we need?</b>
1156
01:56:45,133 --> 01:56:48,666
<b>Considering that many realities do</b>
1157
01:56:48,733 --> 01:56:51,100
<b>outdoor education in the woods</b>
<b>really</b>
1158
01:56:51,166 --> 01:56:56,666
<b>Under Mari with snow, 10° below 0°,</b>
<b>without even having</b>
1159
01:56:56,733 --> 01:56:59,966
<b>a shelter, I think we need very little</b>
1160
01:57:00,133 --> 01:57:02,600
<b>And so the circle is definitely doing</b>
1161
01:57:02,666 --> 01:57:05,966
<b>the assembly of games that Mario will</b>
<b>invent</b>
1162
01:57:06,133 --> 01:57:10,766
<b>The trees, the trees themselves,</b>
<b>obviously, the shade</b>
1163
01:57:11,399 --> 01:57:16,666
<b>And then the tables where to eat, have</b>
<b>a snack</b>
1164
01:57:18,133 --> 01:57:23,533
<b>We are inside, we are there, we</b>
<b>experience the seasons and we</b>
1165
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:27,100
<b>experience them trying to be as inside</b>
<b>as possible</b>
1166
01:57:27,166 --> 01:57:31,466
<b>That's why it then connects, the fact</b>
<b>that the essence, in a</b>
1167
01:57:31,533 --> 01:57:35,433
<b>space the essence, that is the minimum,</b>
<b>perhaps even beyond</b>
1168
01:57:35,500 --> 01:57:36,966
<b>the essence, already what we have</b>
1169
01:57:37,133 --> 01:57:43,833
<b>Because the less you have, the more</b>
<b>you can</b>
1170
01:57:43,899 --> 01:57:46,933
<b>have, the less you have and the more</b>
<b>you have in reality</b>
1171
01:57:47,133 --> 01:57:53,933
<b>And so you have more contact, maybe it</b>
<b>starts, initially it is</b>
1172
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:57,300
<b>difficulties because you don't have a</b>
<b>place</b>
1173
01:57:57,366 --> 01:58:01,066
<b>sheltered, you don't have toys, you</b>
<b>don't have...</b>
1174
01:58:01,133 --> 01:58:06,033
<b>But in reality you succeed much more</b>
1175
01:58:06,100 --> 01:58:08,699
<b>to devise, to find solutions</b>
1176
01:58:09,133 --> 01:58:12,533
<b>This in general, children adults, I'm</b>
<b>always talking</b>
1177
01:58:14,133 --> 01:58:17,899
<b>It is a project, a bit like all</b>
<b>projects, education and</b>
1178
01:58:17,966 --> 01:58:21,600
<b>nature tendentially, that is</b>
<b>revolutionary compared to the</b>
1179
01:58:21,666 --> 01:58:25,066
<b>way we grew up a bit, right?</b>
1180
01:58:25,133 --> 01:58:28,866
<b>So it is about, and it is a path that</b>
<b>we first</b>
1181
01:58:28,933 --> 01:58:33,000
<b>continue to do of a continuous</b>
<b>deconstruction</b>
1182
01:58:33,133 --> 01:58:37,833
<b>Changing things means somehow working</b>
<b>with</b>
1183
01:58:37,899 --> 01:58:41,333
<b>adults, certainly not children</b>
1184
01:58:41,399 --> 01:58:43,066
<b>who need work on themselves</b>
1185
01:58:43,133 --> 01:58:46,300
<b>They don't already do it in normal</b>
<b>self-therapy, that is every child,</b>
1186
01:58:46,366 --> 01:58:48,800
<b>when playing outside in nature, is</b>
1187
01:58:48,866 --> 01:58:53,699
<b>curing and increasing knowledge about</b>
<b>himself</b>
1188
01:58:53,766 --> 01:58:56,500
<b>Here, this is clear, no? Being</b>
<b>together in nature means</b>
1189
01:58:56,566 --> 01:58:59,899
<b>always self-therapy in some way</b>
1190
01:59:00,133 --> 01:59:04,066
<b>All the tatti do it in different ways,</b>
<b>but yes, they don't</b>
1191
01:59:04,133 --> 01:59:04,899
<b>need ours</b>
1192
01:59:04,966 --> 01:59:07,100
<b>external intervention, obviously,</b>
<b>children, no?</b>
1193
01:59:07,433 --> 01:59:12,933
<b>But they are more who cost Philippines</b>
<b>an educational project, who</b>
1194
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:16,766
<b>costinf an idea of non-directive</b>
<b>pedagogy</b>
1195
01:59:17,133 --> 01:59:23,133
<b>Usually, how to say, tries to</b>
<b>repropose something</b>
1196
01:59:23,199 --> 01:59:24,699
<b>different from what he has experienced</b>
1197
01:59:25,133 --> 01:59:27,333
<b>And to do this, he must obviously</b>
1198
01:59:27,399 --> 01:59:29,666
<b>do work on yourself, here</b>
1199
01:59:30,133 --> 01:59:34,566
<b>That is, everything we do here is</b>
<b>really very</b>
1200
01:59:34,633 --> 01:59:38,733
<b>elaborated from the pedagogical point</b>
<b>of view, fundamentally.</b>
1201
01:59:39,433 --> 01:59:41,966
<b>So, yes, there is a red grau job.</b>
1202
01:59:42,300 --> 01:59:47,100
<b>There's an incredible job, let's say,</b>
<b>us down here under the maccia</b>
1203
01:59:47,166 --> 01:59:49,566
<b>of Carrue, as they say in France,</b>
1204
01:59:51,199 --> 01:59:53,199
<b>the children are calm, the</b>
1205
01:59:53,266 --> 01:59:56,066
<b>serene are playing, it takes.</b>
1206
01:59:56,133 --> 01:59:59,933
<b>Very simple. In reality, behind...</b>
1207
02:00:02,133 --> 02:00:06,033
<b>You have no idea. You don't want to have</b>
<b>an idea of what's there.</b>
1208
02:00:06,100 --> 02:00:09,399
<b>But not because in the meantime you</b>
<b>have to come to the awareness that</b>
1209
02:00:09,466 --> 02:00:11,600
<b>I'm here and I see the children, to</b>
<b>tell you,</b>
1210
02:00:11,666 --> 02:00:13,166
<b>she is there, and they are also giving</b>
<b>the children.</b>
1211
02:00:13,433 --> 02:00:15,399
<b>We are always there, eh, with the</b>
1212
02:00:15,466 --> 02:00:17,133
<b>head, we are always there, with attention.</b>
1213
02:02:08,133 --> 02:02:10,333
<b>how did they manage the genera situation?</b>
1214
02:02:12,133 --> 02:02:13,666
<b>it takes a lot of alleramento</b>
1215
02:02:14,133 --> 02:02:15,633
<b>more duo than suo?</b>
1216
02:02:16,133 --> 02:02:17,233
<b>absolutely similar</b>
1217
02:02:17,300 --> 02:02:19,733
<b>no then it is normal that</b>
1218
02:02:20,133 --> 02:02:22,233
<b>the first time</b>
1219
02:02:22,433 --> 02:02:24,066
<b>there is a teacher</b>
1220
02:02:24,133 --> 02:02:27,199
<b>but any person who sees something of</b>
<b>the genera</b>
1221
02:02:27,266 --> 02:02:28,933
<b>and enters in a blow</b>
1222
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:30,933
<b>and' absolutely normal</b>
1223
02:02:32,133 --> 02:02:34,766
<b>yes yes an azzimino</b>
1224
02:02:34,833 --> 02:02:36,233
<b>and but</b>
1225
02:02:38,133 --> 02:02:39,666
<b>let's say that</b>
1226
02:02:40,133 --> 02:02:42,466
<b>gives the possibility</b>
1227
02:02:42,533 --> 02:02:44,366
<b>them to experience this thing</b>
1228
02:02:46,133 --> 02:02:47,899
<b>obviously it is not that</b>
1229
02:02:48,133 --> 02:02:49,699
<b>he are</b>
1230
02:02:50,133 --> 02:02:51,966
<b>years doing this</b>
1231
02:02:52,133 --> 02:02:54,300
<b>and has begun</b>
1232
02:02:54,366 --> 02:02:55,733
<b>slowly at the beginning</b>
1233
02:02:56,133 --> 02:02:57,399
<b>with our help maybe</b>
1234
02:02:58,133 --> 02:02:59,300
<b>we started benches</b>
1235
02:02:59,366 --> 02:03:01,966
<b>to make the first dash</b>
1236
02:03:02,033 --> 02:03:03,766
<b>stopped at the first two</b>
1237
02:03:04,133 --> 02:03:05,199
<b>and then went down</b>
1238
02:03:05,266 --> 02:03:07,666
<b>but as he though</b>
1239
02:03:08,133 --> 02:03:09,566
<b>acquired security</b>
1240
02:03:10,133 --> 02:03:11,633
<b>went higher and higher</b>
1241
02:03:12,133 --> 02:03:13,899
<b>but it is not that we say</b>
1242
02:03:13,966 --> 02:03:15,366
<b>do not do not go do not do</b>
1243
02:03:15,433 --> 02:03:18,033
<b>not attent.. if you are</b>
1244
02:03:18,100 --> 02:03:19,033
<b>yes you do it</b>
1245
02:03:20,133 --> 02:03:21,333
<b>I don't know</b>
1246
02:03:22,133 --> 02:03:24,800
<b>because my must not arrive to him</b>
1247
02:03:24,866 --> 02:03:25,333
<b>anzia</b>
1248
02:03:26,133 --> 02:03:26,966
<b>I instead have it</b>
1249
02:03:28,133 --> 02:03:29,966
<b>because rightly especially at the</b>
<b>beginning</b>
1250
02:03:30,033 --> 02:03:31,766
<b>that you don't know how you can</b>
1251
02:03:32,133 --> 02:03:33,600
<b>say no? because maybe</b>
1252
02:03:33,666 --> 02:03:35,733
<b>at some point he may be afraid</b>
1253
02:03:36,133 --> 02:03:37,500
<b>and so he says okay</b>
1254
02:03:38,133 --> 02:03:39,766
<b>he's feeling fear I don't have to</b>
1255
02:03:40,133 --> 02:03:41,733
<b>panic even more</b>
1256
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:43,466
<b>so how do I do it? I say okay</b>
1257
02:03:43,533 --> 02:03:45,566
<b>yes, slowly fear</b>
1258
02:03:45,633 --> 02:03:47,933
<b>but in this I must always say it</b>
1259
02:03:48,133 --> 02:03:49,500
<b>in a very earthly way</b>
1260
02:03:49,566 --> 02:03:52,500
<b>with forgiveness even making jokes</b>
1261
02:03:52,566 --> 02:03:54,633
<b>three times I didn't want to be a mole</b>
1262
02:03:54,699 --> 02:03:57,333
<b>because it shouldn't reach him</b>
1263
02:03:57,399 --> 02:04:00,100
<b>my inner anxiety</b>
1264
02:04:00,166 --> 02:04:01,699
<b>this thing</b>
1265
02:04:01,766 --> 02:04:03,633
<b>me now</b>
1266
02:04:03,699 --> 02:04:05,366
<b>that is when he goes</b>
1267
02:04:05,433 --> 02:04:07,533
<b>I'm super relaxed</b>
1268
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:09,500
<b>because he has acquired</b>
1269
02:04:09,566 --> 02:04:10,733
<b>a whole series of</b>
1270
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,399
<b>coordination movements</b>
1271
02:04:13,466 --> 02:04:15,199
<b>both of the limbs</b>
1272
02:04:15,266 --> 02:04:16,066
<b>interior and superior</b>
1273
02:04:16,133 --> 02:04:18,466
<b>but also of sight</b>
1274
02:04:18,533 --> 02:04:20,566
<b>because he has everything coordinated</b>
1275
02:04:20,633 --> 02:04:21,433
<b>the movement</b>
1276
02:04:22,133 --> 02:04:24,100
<b>with the sight</b>
1277
02:04:24,166 --> 02:04:26,699
<b>so he who is all sin</b>
1278
02:04:26,766 --> 02:04:28,033
<b>looks</b>
1279
02:04:28,100 --> 02:04:29,566
<b>with his eyes he looks</b>
1280
02:04:30,133 --> 02:04:30,600
<b>at anything</b>
1281
02:04:30,666 --> 02:04:32,866
<b>looks right where</b>
1282
02:04:32,933 --> 02:04:35,066
<b>where he can put his feet</b>
1283
02:04:35,133 --> 02:04:37,000
<b>where he can put his hands</b>
1284
02:04:37,066 --> 02:04:39,399
<b>and that is</b>
1285
02:04:39,466 --> 02:04:41,966
<b>he won, I mean, in the sense</b>
1286
02:04:42,133 --> 02:04:43,933
<b>and so he's fine</b>
1287
02:04:44,133 --> 02:04:44,766
<b>to get up there</b>
1288
02:04:44,833 --> 02:04:47,000
<b>he's fine with going down</b>
1289
02:04:47,066 --> 02:04:49,166
<b>with complete certainty, there's no fear</b>
1290
02:04:50,133 --> 02:04:51,033
<b>you can really see it</b>
1291
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:52,833
<b>from the movements that</b>
1292
02:04:54,133 --> 02:04:55,233
<b>he's sure</b>
1293
02:04:56,133 --> 02:04:56,966
<b>and how old is mine?</b>
1294
02:04:57,899 --> 02:04:58,433
<b>I'm directing you</b>
1295
02:05:00,133 --> 02:05:01,733
<b>here, I go, I go</b>
1296
02:05:02,133 --> 02:05:02,966
<b>5?</b>
1297
02:05:03,633 --> 02:05:05,100
<b>soon, eh, not yet he hasn't</b>
1298
02:05:05,166 --> 02:05:06,733
<b>soon you'll be 5 years old</b>
1299
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:09,033
<b>how old is he now? 4</b>
1300
02:05:10,133 --> 02:05:11,366
<b>then you see that</b>
1301
02:05:12,133 --> 02:05:12,833
<b>who speaks</b>
1302
02:05:12,899 --> 02:05:14,833
<b>the hand to lever a hand</b>
1303
02:05:14,899 --> 02:05:17,266
<b>that makes us really understand that</b>
<b>it is not</b>
1304
02:05:18,133 --> 02:05:19,833
<b>shit, but is it safe</b>
1305
02:05:20,133 --> 02:05:21,766
<b>of what he is doing</b>
1306
02:05:24,500 --> 02:05:25,966
<b>the fundamental thing</b>
1307
02:05:26,133 --> 02:05:27,566
<b>is that it's the children</b>
1308
02:05:28,133 --> 02:05:30,100
<b>to climb by themselves</b>
1309
02:05:30,166 --> 02:05:31,800
<b>we can never help them climb</b>
1310
02:05:31,866 --> 02:05:33,399
<b>because if we help them climb</b>
1311
02:05:33,466 --> 02:05:35,866
<b>they might get to a point where they</b>
<b>then</b>
1312
02:05:35,933 --> 02:05:37,399
<b>are afraid, but if instead</b>
1313
02:05:37,466 --> 02:05:39,833
<b>they are the ones climbing by themselves</b>
1314
02:05:40,133 --> 02:05:41,266
<b>and get as far as they can</b>
1315
02:05:41,333 --> 02:05:43,566
<b>and at most we help them down</b>
1316
02:05:43,633 --> 02:05:45,600
<b>on these small logs</b>
1317
02:05:46,133 --> 02:05:47,933
<b>or on that tree the arch</b>
1318
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:50,166
<b>for example that tree there is an</b>
<b>example of a tree</b>
1319
02:05:50,233 --> 02:05:52,733
<b>that for small children</b>
1320
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:57,766
<b>it was a monso exactly</b>
1321
02:05:58,133 --> 02:06:00,166
<b>exactly, in the sense that you can</b>
<b>climb</b>
1322
02:06:00,233 --> 02:06:01,133
<b>easily</b>
1323
02:06:01,199 --> 02:06:03,733
<b>to many</b>
1324
02:06:04,133 --> 02:06:06,000
<b>the branches, then we have a blocked</b>
<b>assimo</b>
1325
02:06:06,066 --> 02:06:08,066
<b>because we were afraid if it snowed</b>
1326
02:06:08,133 --> 02:06:10,100
<b>but not so bad</b>
1327
02:06:10,166 --> 02:06:11,533
<b>I would like the pleasure</b>
1328
02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:13,566
<b>with the first tree</b>
1329
02:06:14,133 --> 02:06:16,133
<b>is a certain of how can I say</b>
1330
02:06:16,199 --> 02:06:17,966
<b>I don't like the word</b>
1331
02:06:18,133 --> 02:06:20,933
<b>but maybe we'll find another one together</b>
1332
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:23,033
<b>personal training</b>
1333
02:06:24,133 --> 02:06:26,733
<b>that is, you have to arrive</b>
1334
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:28,533
<b>slowly to do education to the</b>
<b>attentive</b>
1335
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:29,566
<b>to</b>
1336
02:06:30,133 --> 02:06:31,466
<b>an awareness, 2</b>
1337
02:06:32,133 --> 02:06:33,433
<b>canteen</b>
1338
02:06:33,500 --> 02:06:34,733
<b>on what they can be</b>
1339
02:06:36,133 --> 02:06:37,533
<b>the directions that can happen</b>
1340
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:39,033
<b>on what happens from the skin</b>
1341
02:06:39,100 --> 02:06:41,033
<b>also at the level of purpose, of insomni</b>
1342
02:06:41,100 --> 02:06:42,666
<b>and etc.</b>
1343
02:06:44,133 --> 02:06:44,699
<b>on the other</b>
1344
02:06:44,766 --> 02:06:47,233
<b>to put aside a whole series of</b>
1345
02:06:47,300 --> 02:06:49,566
<b>worries that derive fundamentally</b>
1346
02:06:49,633 --> 02:06:52,066
<b>from the culture that one has</b>
<b>somewhat experienced</b>
1347
02:06:52,133 --> 02:06:54,000
<b>that is getting hurt</b>
1348
02:06:54,133 --> 02:06:56,666
<b>by piezzo, by sporzi</b>
1349
02:06:56,733 --> 02:06:58,066
<b>this is not good</b>
1350
02:06:58,133 --> 02:07:00,366
<b>that a whole series of</b>
1351
02:07:00,433 --> 02:07:03,233
<b>superstructure and cultural</b>
1352
02:07:03,300 --> 02:07:04,066
<b>conditioning</b>
1353
02:07:04,133 --> 02:07:05,166
<b>that</b>
1354
02:07:06,133 --> 02:07:08,699
<b>you carry with you from how you</b>
were educated
1355
02:07:08,766 --> 02:07:10,166
<b>especially a series of things</b>
1356
02:07:10,233 --> 02:07:11,800
<b>so you have to do a process of</b>
1357
02:07:12,133 --> 02:07:13,066
<b>we</b>
1358
02:07:13,133 --> 02:07:16,699
<b>we have learned to define it as unlearn</b>
1359
02:07:16,766 --> 02:07:16,933
<b>no?</b>
1360
02:07:18,233 --> 02:07:20,100
<b>something you have to take off</b>
1361
02:07:20,166 --> 02:07:21,966
<b>a whole series of conditioning</b>
1362
02:07:22,133 --> 02:07:23,766
<b>free yourself to be the most</b>
1363
02:07:24,133 --> 02:07:26,199
<b>neutral possible</b>
1364
02:07:26,266 --> 02:07:28,199
<b>and at the same time</b>
1365
02:07:28,266 --> 02:07:30,833
<b>also to let the child</b>
1366
02:07:30,899 --> 02:07:32,066
<b>develop his skills</b>
1367
02:07:32,133 --> 02:07:33,633
<b>and skills</b>
1368
02:07:34,133 --> 02:07:35,899
<b>in absolute freedom</b>
1369
02:07:36,133 --> 02:07:36,833
<b>even the child impale</b>
1370
02:07:36,899 --> 02:07:39,333
<b>the child impale</b>
1371
02:07:52,133 --> 02:07:54,166
<b>beautiful this slide</b>
1372
02:07:54,233 --> 02:07:56,300
<b>in winter they go down with</b>
1373
02:07:56,366 --> 02:07:57,500
<b>colpedera</b>
1374
02:07:58,133 --> 02:07:59,633
<b>yes but if you're filming</b>
1375
02:08:00,133 --> 02:08:01,166
<b>our faces</b>
1376
02:08:01,233 --> 02:08:01,633
<b>I do not know</b>
1377
02:08:04,133 --> 02:08:06,033
<b>maybe they put some music</b>
1378
02:08:06,133 --> 02:08:07,633
<b>or</b>
1379
02:08:08,133 --> 02:08:09,366
<b>like Michele</b>
1380
02:08:10,133 --> 02:08:11,800
<b>he got hurt</b>
1381
02:08:11,866 --> 02:08:18,300
<b>the others put their voice on it</b>
1382
02:08:18,366 --> 02:08:20,033
<b>wants to do another one</b>
1383
02:08:20,100 --> 02:08:21,566
<b>our of censorship no?</b>
1384
02:08:30,133 --> 02:08:31,699
<b>look how it's called</b>
1385
02:08:31,766 --> 02:08:38,199
<b>when he went to school there was</b>
a professor
1386
02:08:38,266 --> 02:08:40,066
<b>of food</b>
1387
02:08:40,133 --> 02:08:42,066
<b>and he made me</b>
1388
02:08:42,133 --> 02:08:44,199
<b>you that you copai to the</b>
decoltori
1389
02:08:44,266 --> 02:08:45,366
<b>you must tell me the truth</b>
1390
02:08:46,133 --> 02:08:47,800
<b>do you have a garden for you</b>
1391
02:08:47,866 --> 02:08:49,566
<b>a garden and the other you can</b>
1392
02:08:50,133 --> 02:08:51,500
<b>to the market</b>
1393
02:08:51,566 --> 02:08:53,233
<b>and I say then I didn't do bad</b>
1394
02:08:53,300 --> 02:08:55,466
<b>no you do it, but I didn't do bad</b>
1395
02:09:03,566 --> 02:09:11,800
<b>and if you don't do it</b>
1396
02:09:11,866 --> 02:09:16,866
<b>what is he doing?</b>
1397
02:09:18,133 --> 02:09:20,466
<b>video video</b>
1398
02:09:20,533 --> 02:09:21,333
<b>video</b>
1399
02:09:22,133 --> 02:09:22,966
<b>beautiful</b>
1400
02:09:24,133 --> 02:09:26,600
<b>I tell myself to check with my eyes</b>
1401
02:09:26,666 --> 02:09:27,533
<b>mi cercava di</b>
1402
02:09:30,133 --> 02:09:59,966
<b>che bello e poi a seconda del momento</b>
1403
02:10:00,133 --> 02:10:01,866
<b>e poi ci sono stati i periodi in cui</b>
<b>andavamo</b>
1404
02:10:01,933 --> 02:10:03,500
<b>una volta alla terremana miglioseca</b>
1405
02:10:04,133 --> 02:10:06,433
<b>ci sono state l'occasione del festival</b>
<b>della gentiletta</b>
1406
02:10:06,500 --> 02:10:08,300
<b>che siamo andati da tutti negli gossianti</b>
1407
02:10:08,366 --> 02:10:09,399
<b>a spargere i cuori</b>
1408
02:10:09,466 --> 02:10:11,466
<b>a lasciare i cartelli verso un sito</b>
1409
02:10:11,533 --> 02:10:13,066
<b>viva il festival della gentiletta</b>
1410
02:10:13,133 --> 02:10:14,333
<b>viva la gentiletta</b>
1411
02:10:14,399 --> 02:10:17,066
<b>ma poi i vari progetti davvero</b>
1412
02:10:18,133 --> 02:10:20,066
<b>diciamo che ci teniamo a vivere</b>
1413
02:10:20,133 --> 02:10:21,233
<b>su questo spasio</b>
1414
02:10:21,300 --> 02:10:24,366
<b>non sono interno, ma anche esterno</b>
1415
02:10:24,433 --> 02:10:26,066
<b>e poi lo spazio interno</b>
1416
02:10:26,133 --> 02:10:27,300
<b>e lo spazio interno</b>
1417
02:10:27,366 --> 02:10:29,399
<b>e il patiente non lo spazio interno</b>
1418
02:10:29,466 --> 02:10:30,733
<b>esatto esatto esatto</b>
1419
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:31,933
<b>siamo molto out</b>
1420
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:33,866
<b>Out d'orché</b>
1421
02:10:36,133 --> 02:10:44,366
<b>Mi Chamaggio</b>
1422
02:10:45,133 --> 02:11:05,666
<b>Mi Flor śma ghi</b>
1423
02:11:05,733 --> 02:11:13,033
<b>Guarda, prendiamo la picocca!</b>
1424
02:11:13,266 --> 02:11:19,000
<b>Ok, guarda!</b>
1425
02:11:19,066 --> 02:11:20,199
<b>No, non ci dico male!</b>
1426
02:11:20,733 --> 02:11:21,199
<b>Alla picocca!</b>
1427
02:11:21,266 --> 02:11:22,233
<b>No, ci costruiamo a te!</b>
1428
02:11:22,500 --> 02:11:26,166
<b>No, non ci dico male!</b>
1429
02:11:26,733 --> 02:11:27,066
<b>No, non ci dico male!</b>
1430
02:11:30,100 --> 02:11:31,933
<b>Anna, vedi segreto a una picocca?</b>
1431
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:33,333
<b>Sì, ci dico una picocca!</b>
1432
02:11:34,733 --> 02:11:37,666
<b>Vieni, vieni!</b>
1433
02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:38,366
<b>Vieni, vieni!</b>
1434
02:11:40,566 --> 02:11:41,933
<b>Alla picocca enormi!</b>
1435
02:11:42,233 --> 02:11:43,899
<b>Sì, ci stai parlando da picocca!</b>
1436
02:11:45,733 --> 02:11:48,100
<b>Queste realtà, tutte queste realtà,</b>
1437
02:11:48,166 --> 02:11:50,933
<b>dalla prima della signora del Bosco di</b>
<b>Ostia,</b>
1438
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:53,166
<b>tutte quelle che poi ne sono venute di</b>
1439
02:11:53,233 --> 02:11:58,133
<b>conseguenza, sono nati grazie un po' a</b>
<b>un...</b>
1440
02:12:00,199 --> 02:12:02,333
<b>diciamo a dei pirati, in senso</b>
1441
02:12:02,399 --> 02:12:04,533
<b>che chi era associazione culturale,</b>
1442
02:12:04,766 --> 02:12:07,033
<b>chi come noi, associazione e promozione</b>
<b>sociale,</b>
1443
02:12:08,199 --> 02:12:11,266
<b>chi magari ha fatto dei progetti con la</b>
<b>scuola pubblica,</b>
1444
02:12:11,733 --> 02:12:15,100
<b>ci sono tantissime realtà e diversissime,</b>
1445
02:12:15,166 --> 02:12:17,733
<b>chi ha fatto appunto scuola parentale...</b>
1446
02:12:19,833 --> 02:12:21,100
<b>però sono nata così proprio</b>
1447
02:12:21,166 --> 02:12:23,033
<b>perché c'era la possibilità di farlo.</b>
1448
02:12:24,166 --> 02:12:26,433
<b>Io non sono contro le norme, però</b>
1449
02:12:26,500 --> 02:12:27,666
<b>che le norme le facciano che poi</b>
1450
02:12:27,733 --> 02:12:32,333
<b>lavorano sul campo tutti i giorni</b>
1451
02:12:32,766 --> 02:12:36,833
<b>and that it's not something else</b>
<b>dropped from above,</b>
1452
02:12:36,899 --> 02:12:39,199
<b>because we are trying to do</b>
<b>the opposite,</b>
1453
02:12:39,566 --> 02:12:41,633
<b>that is, all these realities were</b>
<b>born from below</b>
1454
02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:45,199
<b>and are inflaming the spirits of a</b>
1455
02:12:45,266 --> 02:12:48,933
<b>school that in some way had now</b>
<b>gone out,</b>
1456
02:12:49,233 --> 02:12:52,600
<b>the Italian school has gone out</b>
<b>for many years.</b>
1457
02:12:53,233 --> 02:12:55,666
<b>But maybe everyone worked to</b>
<b>follow the program,</b>
1458
02:12:55,733 --> 02:12:59,000
<b>the program as we call it has</b>
<b>not existed for 40</b>
1459
02:12:59,066 --> 02:13:00,666
<b>years, the ministerial program.</b>
1460
02:13:01,366 --> 02:13:04,500
<b>There is a text called national</b>
<b>guidelines</b>
1461
02:13:04,733 --> 02:13:06,133
<b>for the school curriculum</b>
1462
02:13:06,199 --> 02:13:07,899
<b>for childhood, for primary school,</b>
1463
02:13:07,966 --> 02:13:09,966
<b>which is a beautiful text, where</b>
1464
02:13:10,033 --> 02:13:11,866
<b>for example, the kindergarten</b>
1465
02:13:11,933 --> 02:13:14,933
<b>puts the body at the center, puts</b>
<b>the</b>
1466
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:17,199
<b>exploration of the environment</b>
<b>at the center,</b>
1467
02:13:17,533 --> 02:13:22,666
<b>puts creativity at the center, so</b>
<b>if we respected</b>
1468
02:13:22,733 --> 02:13:24,566
<b>these indications here, the</b>
1469
02:13:24,633 --> 02:13:27,566
<b>school, it would be a wonderful</b>
<b>place,</b>
1470
02:13:27,633 --> 02:13:31,033
<b>where children happily enter, learn</b>
<b>with joy.</b>
1471
02:13:32,466 --> 02:13:35,233
<b>Honestly, the thing that I find</b>
<b>most important,</b>
1472
02:13:35,533 --> 02:13:36,800
<b>is that these guys get out of here</b>
1473
02:13:36,866 --> 02:13:38,733
<b>thinking that school is a</b>
<b>beautiful place,</b>
1474
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:42,166
<b>a place of formation, is that</b>
<b>learning is a beautiful thing,</b>
1475
02:13:43,233 --> 02:13:45,466
<b>and that being with others is a</b>
<b>beautiful thing,</b>
1476
02:13:45,733 --> 02:13:48,666
<b>and that it is not competition, no?</b>
1477
02:13:48,733 --> 02:13:51,433
<b>That I took more, or I'm cooler</b>
<b>than theme,</b>
1478
02:13:51,500 --> 02:13:54,033
<b>that a bond of friendship is</b>
<b>created</b>
1479
02:13:54,100 --> 02:13:56,199
<b>with the complete accentuation</b>
<b>of the other,</b>
1480
02:13:56,266 --> 02:13:59,199
<b>and that differences do not lead</b>
1481
02:13:59,266 --> 02:14:03,000
<b>to discussions, but to integration,</b>
1482
02:14:03,066 --> 02:14:06,100
<b>that then bringing this into the</b>
<b>world</b>
1483
02:14:06,166 --> 02:14:07,966
<b>outside is another matter,</b>
1484
02:14:08,033 --> 02:14:11,699
<b>but in small communities, which</b>
<b>seems possible?</b>
1485
02:14:12,633 --> 02:14:15,433
<b>We hope to send you here after</b>
<b>the third grade</b>
1486
02:14:15,733 --> 02:14:18,233
<b>of children who do not see school</b>
<b>as an enemy,</b>
1487
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:20,933
<b>and who know that there is a</b>
1488
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:24,633
<b>place for their group of friends,</b>
1489
02:14:25,266 --> 02:14:27,600
<b>in which to take refuge when</b>
<b>needed,</b>
1490
02:14:27,666 --> 02:14:29,899
<b>in which to find a place of</b>
1491
02:14:29,966 --> 02:14:34,300
<b>community that now staggers a</b>
<b>little bit of cyan.</b>
1492
02:14:35,733 --> 02:14:38,699
<b>Outdoor activities are outdoor</b>
<b>activities</b>
1493
02:14:38,766 --> 02:14:41,266
<b>outdoors and are outdoor activities.</b>
1494
02:14:41,733 --> 02:14:43,199
<b>What instead pedagogy e</b>
1495
02:14:43,266 --> 02:14:45,233
<b>the nature of what you do here</b>
1496
02:14:45,733 --> 02:14:48,966
<b>is an approach to the contrary,</b>
1497
02:14:50,166 --> 02:14:53,966
<b>never impose something on the</b>
<b>child,</b>
1498
02:14:54,766 --> 02:14:59,433
<b>but always ask the child if he</b>
<b>wants to do,</b>
1499
02:14:59,633 --> 02:15:01,333
<b>if then he does not want to do,</b>
<b>he does not.</b>
1500
02:15:02,033 --> 02:15:03,533
<b>But he does, because the child</b>
<b>when</b>
1501
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:05,266
<b>He says, I'm not doing anything,</b>
1502
02:15:05,733 --> 02:15:09,733
<b>today but noio, it's time that, if you</b>
1503
02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:12,866
<b>serve him, write a pedagogical treatise.</b>
1504
02:15:13,733 --> 02:15:17,733
<b>We must work hard on families, on parents,</b>
1505
02:15:17,800 --> 02:15:19,699
<b>because we often said it is not the</b>
1506
02:15:19,766 --> 02:15:21,566
<b>awareness that the problem is us,</b>
1507
02:15:22,566 --> 02:15:23,666
<b>that is, children don't have</b>
1508
02:15:23,733 --> 02:15:25,733
<b>problems, we adults have them.</b>
1509
02:15:26,033 --> 02:15:29,533
<b>We are the ones who educate them with all the fears they have.</b>
1510
02:15:30,033 --> 02:15:33,300
<b>Some arrive here terrified of everything.</b>
1511
02:15:34,066 --> 02:15:35,000
<b>One told me, but it's not</b>
1512
02:15:35,066 --> 02:15:37,233
<b>clean, but what is not clean darling?</b>
1513
02:15:37,300 --> 02:15:38,633
<b>Do you want me to remove the pallia from</b>
1514
02:15:38,699 --> 02:15:40,133
<b>the ground? I can't remove it.</b>
1515
02:15:40,466 --> 02:15:41,300
<b>This is nature.</b>
1516
02:15:41,366 --> 02:15:41,866
<b>Then too much.</b>
1517
02:15:42,833 --> 02:15:44,233
<b>I share a chat I had</b>
1518
02:15:44,300 --> 02:15:47,966
<b>the other day with Hermandoine,</b>
1519
02:15:48,033 --> 02:15:51,333
<b>who is this fantastic teacher</b>
1520
02:15:51,399 --> 02:15:52,699
<b>who made this documentary</b>
1521
02:15:52,766 --> 02:15:54,399
<b>called la diversion proibida,</b>
1522
02:15:54,466 --> 02:15:56,800
<b>which seen from the intelligence of</b>
1523
02:15:56,866 --> 02:15:58,333
<b>people who have had an impact</b>
1524
02:15:58,399 --> 02:16:01,266
<b>in your contemporary region like no other.</b>
1525
02:16:01,733 --> 02:16:05,933
<b>And we were chatting, he told me, he agreed with us,</b>
1526
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:08,666
<b>he told me the desafio of your school,</b>
1527
02:16:08,966 --> 02:16:10,533
<b>the bet of the school of</b>
1528
02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:12,800
<b>today is to work with families.</b>
1529
02:16:13,166 --> 02:16:15,666
<b>This is what we have never done</b>
1530
02:16:15,733 --> 02:16:17,966
<b>in the development of pedagogical history.</b>
1531
02:16:18,533 --> 02:16:20,433
<b>Despite so many we have talked about,</b>
1532
02:16:20,500 --> 02:16:23,333
<b>I think of Don Milani, at the Conciatto di Comunica Ducante,</b>
1533
02:16:23,733 --> 02:16:28,066
<b>but this awareness has never been applied.</b>
1534
02:16:28,133 --> 02:16:30,433
<b>We are trying, we are inside the process</b>
1535
02:16:30,733 --> 02:16:34,633
<b>and we realize, even if we have not reached, the maximum,</b>
1536
02:16:34,700 --> 02:16:40,533
<b>the benefits of having a school where parents and teachers</b>
1537
02:16:40,733 --> 02:16:42,433
<b>establish a pact</b>
1538
02:16:42,500 --> 02:16:44,966
<b>educational, they go in the same direction,</b>
1539
02:16:45,733 --> 02:16:47,866
<b>maybe slowly, but they go together</b>
1540
02:16:47,933 --> 02:16:50,266
<b>and therefore this thing is fundamental.</b>
1541
02:16:51,100 --> 02:16:53,533
<b>And I was telling you that it is more important that,</b>
1542
02:16:53,600 --> 02:16:55,766
<b>being the institutional purpose of the school,</b>
1543
02:16:55,833 --> 02:16:58,666
<b>that of securing children, their well-being,</b>
1544
02:17:00,633 --> 02:17:02,733
<b>to have as an ambition, I know it's a little crazy,</b>
1545
02:17:02,799 --> 02:17:04,533
<b>but the one that helps to care for families,</b>
1546
02:17:04,933 --> 02:17:06,933
<b>because it seems a family to stammer,</b>
1547
02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:08,633
<b>the child cannot do good, right?</b>
1548
02:17:08,700 --> 02:17:12,133
<b>So for what we can we must work on this.</b>
1549
02:17:12,566 --> 02:17:14,366
<b>For example, providing contexts</b>
1550
02:17:14,433 --> 02:17:17,200
<b>where they can rediscover relationships,</b>
1551
02:17:17,466 --> 02:17:20,100
<b>because one of the things that hurts
us in this case</b>
1552
02:17:20,166 --> 02:17:22,733
<b>is that it's a bit materialistic and
individualistic.</b>
1553
02:17:22,799 --> 02:17:23,899
<b>The fact that we are using, that</b>
1554
02:17:23,966 --> 02:17:25,566
<b>we have places for recreation,</b>
1555
02:17:26,066 --> 02:17:27,666
<b>apart from the workplace,</b>
1556
02:17:27,733 --> 02:17:31,433
<b>where, however, hyper-competitive
dynamics prevail,</b>
1557
02:17:31,500 --> 02:17:32,733
<b>because there are places where</b>
1558
02:17:32,799 --> 02:17:34,966
<b>we can't chat, get to know each other.</b>
1559
02:17:35,899 --> 02:17:38,133
<b>And so we have agreed to accept,</b>
1560
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:39,899
<b>to create these places here,</b>
1561
02:17:39,966 --> 02:17:41,333
<b>places that meet for families.</b>
1562
02:17:42,566 --> 02:17:43,799
<b>This meant that they got to</b>
1563
02:17:43,866 --> 02:17:46,166
<b>know each other, that they were better,</b>
1564
02:17:46,233 --> 02:17:49,666
<b>because social relationships are a
human need,</b>
1565
02:17:49,733 --> 02:17:51,666
<b>a fundamental ingredient for happiness.</b>
1566
02:17:52,633 --> 02:17:54,666
<b>And so we see helping parents,</b>
1567
02:17:54,733 --> 02:17:56,799
<b>helping indirectly with the children.</b>
1568
02:17:57,266 --> 02:17:59,600
<b>And the good thing, even for us,</b>
1569
02:17:59,666 --> 02:18:01,366
<b>we no longer have the pressure</b>
1570
02:18:01,433 --> 02:18:03,233
<b>of, oh, God, what does the parent think.</b>
1571
02:18:03,299 --> 02:18:05,433
<b>But the parents are inside, they know.</b>
1572
02:18:05,500 --> 02:18:08,033
<b>And so when I started doing this work,</b>
1573
02:18:08,366 --> 02:18:11,000
<b>I remember that before each child left,</b>
1574
02:18:11,066 --> 02:18:14,533
<b>I knew the exit time of each child,</b>
1575
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:16,700
<b>and five minutes before, I polished
everything,</b>
1576
02:18:17,033 --> 02:18:18,966
<b>because I cleaned, if it was bad,</b>
1577
02:18:19,166 --> 02:18:20,366
<b>I wanted the parent maybe.</b>
1578
02:18:21,166 --> 02:18:22,666
<b>Now I call the parent and tell them,</b>
1579
02:18:22,733 --> 02:18:24,899
<b>how much does he owe.</b>
1580
02:18:26,966 --> 02:18:29,566
<b>With many very critical friends of mine,</b>
1581
02:18:29,799 --> 02:18:31,766
<b>even living in an area with a</b>
1582
02:18:31,833 --> 02:18:33,700
<b>very strong rural context like this,</b>
1583
02:18:34,299 --> 02:18:35,033
<b>but never having had</b>
1584
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:36,933
<b>any direct contact with the Earth,</b>
1585
02:18:37,133 --> 02:18:41,033
<b>have developed a fear of everything
in nature</b>
1586
02:18:41,100 --> 02:18:42,333
<b>it can be a lizard, it can be</b>
1587
02:18:42,399 --> 02:18:43,733
<b>an insect that lands on you,</b>
1588
02:18:43,799 --> 02:18:45,833
<b>a plant that touches you and stings
you a little.</b>
1589
02:18:46,733 --> 02:18:50,566
<b>It's not my field, so I wouldn't want
to trespass on yours,</b>
1590
02:18:50,733 --> 02:18:53,866
<b>I don't want to, allow me, but I think
that fear</b>
1591
02:18:53,933 --> 02:18:56,100
<b>then becomes problematic, develops</b>
1592
02:18:56,166 --> 02:18:58,166
<b>certainly from a young age and carries
over into adulthood,</b>
1593
02:18:58,533 --> 02:19:01,933
<b>it leads you to live in an artificial way,</b>
1594
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:02,866
<b>perhaps it's not the term of choice,</b>
1595
02:19:02,933 --> 02:19:03,966
<b>but it's the only one that comes to
mind,</b>
1596
02:19:04,333 --> 02:19:05,299
<b>that doesn't make you feel good.</b>
1597
02:19:05,833 --> 02:19:08,566
<b>In my opinion, even as an adult, the
Earth,</b>
1598
02:19:08,633 --> 02:19:11,933
<b>once you are forced into it, if you
weren't born into it,</b>
1599
02:19:12,166 --> 02:19:13,933
<b>if you haven't returned to it voluntarily,</b>
1600
02:19:14,733 --> 02:19:18,500
<b>is something therapeutic, educational,</b>
1601
02:19:18,566 --> 02:19:19,666
<b>even as an adult, really strong.</b>
1602
02:19:19,733 --> 02:19:21,966
<b>If you do it as a child, so much the better.</b>
1603
02:19:24,733 --> 02:19:29,600
<b>Automatically the respect that should be</b>
<b>innate,</b>
1604
02:19:29,666 --> 02:19:31,666
<b>but isn't, for the environment around us,</b>
1605
02:19:31,733 --> 02:19:34,866
<b>comes much easier to you, I'm convinced</b>
<b>of that.</b>
1606
02:19:35,533 --> 02:19:37,500
<b>I'm smoking a cigarette, I don't throw</b>
<b>it on the ground,</b>
1607
02:19:37,566 --> 02:19:38,899
<b>neither on the street nor in the ground.</b>
1608
02:19:40,566 --> 02:19:42,066
<b>I developed this respect when</b>
1609
02:19:42,133 --> 02:19:43,633
<b>I started working seriously in the land.</b>
1610
02:19:44,266 --> 02:19:46,466
<b>It's nonsense, but this is serious</b>
<b>pollution,</b>
1611
02:19:46,733 --> 02:19:48,700
<b>because if we all do it, it's serious</b>
<b>pollution.</b>
1612
02:19:49,200 --> 02:19:50,500
<b>In fact, if we want to solve this,</b>
1613
02:19:50,733 --> 02:19:52,866
<b>clean water, clean air, clean land,</b>
1614
02:19:52,933 --> 02:19:57,133
<b>we really need to work on feeling part of it.</b>
1615
02:19:57,733 --> 02:19:59,799
<b>And if you go to contaminate</b>
1616
02:19:59,866 --> 02:20:01,733
<b>an energy flow of the planet,</b>
1617
02:20:02,833 --> 02:20:05,366
<b>you are in reality poisoning yourself.</b>
1618
02:20:06,066 --> 02:20:09,733
<b>I said differently, if we every living</b>
<b>being</b>
1619
02:20:09,799 --> 02:20:12,033
<b>has a thread in a great framework of life,</b>
1620
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:14,899
<b>every time you go to pull and damage</b>
<b>something,</b>
1621
02:20:15,133 --> 02:20:16,600
<b>you are damaging the whole network.</b>
1622
02:20:17,100 --> 02:20:19,233
<b>And to really understand this on a deep</b>
<b>level,</b>
1623
02:20:19,299 --> 02:20:21,433
<b>as the indigenous people teach us,</b>
1624
02:20:21,766 --> 02:20:24,000
<b>you have to be in contact with these</b>
<b>environments,</b>
1625
02:20:24,066 --> 02:20:25,166
<b>otherwise you won't be able to understand it.</b>
1626
02:20:25,899 --> 02:20:28,466
<b>And so I really hope, let's close like that</b>
<b>maybe.</b>
1627
02:20:29,066 --> 02:20:32,066
<b>I hope that nature education in Italy will</b>
<b>ensure</b>
1628
02:20:32,733 --> 02:20:36,100
<b>that young beings can have</b>
1629
02:20:36,166 --> 02:20:38,633
<b>those deep and vital experiences</b>
1630
02:20:38,700 --> 02:20:40,433
<b>in outdoor environments,</b>
1631
02:20:40,933 --> 02:20:44,666
<b>so that one day, if they really are at some</b>
<b>point</b>
1632
02:20:44,733 --> 02:20:48,533
<b>the stakeholders of major decision-making</b>
<b>processes,</b>
1633
02:20:48,733 --> 02:20:51,866
<b>they can say, no, let's not drill this thing,</b>
1634
02:20:51,933 --> 02:20:53,466
<b>yes it is really a great gain,</b>
1635
02:20:53,533 --> 02:20:55,966
<b>but maybe there is someone in a</b>
<b>multinational company</b>
1636
02:20:56,033 --> 02:20:58,366
<b>who was in the woodshed as a child,</b>
1637
02:20:58,633 --> 02:21:00,700
<b>who went to primary school in the woods,</b>
1638
02:21:00,766 --> 02:21:02,766
<b>that the forest is the example, okay?</b>
1639
02:21:03,333 --> 02:21:06,000
<b>To be, in short, a pistol in the metaphor,</b>
1640
02:21:06,066 --> 02:21:07,299
<b>it can also be in a whole mind,</b>
1641
02:21:07,366 --> 02:21:10,533
<b>but that has valued the vital processes</b>
1642
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:12,666
<b>in such a way that he can at some point</b>
1643
02:21:12,733 --> 02:21:14,299
<b>put his face and say, come on,</b>
1644
02:21:14,666 --> 02:21:16,133
<b>let's give up this type of profit</b>
1645
02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:18,366
<b>to safeguard that type of environment.</b>
1646
02:21:19,266 --> 02:21:20,866
<b>Here, just getting to the indecision of</b>
<b>the kind,</b>
1647
02:21:21,733 --> 02:21:24,799
<b>it doesn't just pass here, it has to be</b>
<b>really, no,</b>
1648
02:21:24,866 --> 02:21:27,399
<b>a heartfelt thing, yes, that the</b>
<b>intelligence of the heart</b>
1649
02:21:27,466 --> 02:21:29,600
<b>must be put into action, developed,</b>
1650
02:21:29,666 --> 02:21:33,066
<b>what is naturalistic intelligence or, I don't</b>
<b>know,</b>
1651
02:21:33,333 --> 02:21:34,366
<b>belonging to life.</b>
1652
02:21:34,866 --> 02:21:39,233
<b>The Terra-Terra project is a world</b>
1653
02:21:39,733 --> 02:21:42,799
<b>that has a meaning that is not simply</b>
<b>cultivating.</b>
1654
02:21:43,166 --> 02:21:45,233
<b>It's not even simply cultivating</b>
1655
02:21:45,299 --> 02:21:46,733
<b>in the most sustainable way possible</b>
1656
02:21:46,799 --> 02:21:49,733
<b>with the techniques, let's say,</b>
1657
02:21:50,966 --> 02:21:52,633
<b>best from this point of view.</b>
1658
02:21:53,399 --> 02:21:58,133
<b>But in reality we would like to try</b>
1659
02:21:58,200 --> 02:22:03,066
<b>to make a leap in quality by thinking</b>
<b>about possible,</b>
1660
02:22:04,733 --> 02:22:08,666
<b>toppable and possible employment issues</b>
1661
02:22:08,733 --> 02:22:09,833
<b>also later to report.</b>
1662
02:22:11,733 --> 02:22:16,733
<b>The essence of our work is the attempt to</b>
1663
02:22:16,799 --> 02:22:21,433
<b>create an open education,</b>
1664
02:22:22,433 --> 02:22:24,399
<b>therefore an education that starts</b>
1665
02:22:24,733 --> 02:22:28,233
<b>from life's problems and not from</b>
1666
02:22:28,299 --> 02:22:29,666
<b>what is written in books,</b>
1667
02:22:29,733 --> 02:22:33,700
<b>and which however seeks a significant</b>
<b>mediation</b>
1668
02:22:33,766 --> 02:22:35,200
<b>with established knowledge.</b>
1669
02:22:37,733 --> 02:22:39,033
<b>So we don't do an</b>
1670
02:22:39,100 --> 02:22:41,933
<b>alternative school to underline,</b>
1671
02:22:42,000 --> 02:22:43,933
<b>we don't do an alternative school,</b>
1672
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:46,000
<b>we don't want to do an alternative school,</b>
1673
02:22:46,066 --> 02:22:47,200
<b>we want to do school</b>
1674
02:22:47,866 --> 02:22:50,100
<b>in the only way it is possible to do it,</b>
1675
02:22:50,166 --> 02:22:54,933
<b>that is, participating, involving,</b>
1676
02:22:55,366 --> 02:22:57,233
<b>doing significant activities, etc.</b>
1677
02:22:57,733 --> 02:23:03,700
<b>And so there is a method that...</b>
1678
02:23:04,166 --> 02:23:06,799
<b>there are several methods that work.</b>
1679
02:23:06,866 --> 02:23:08,500
<b>There is a method that works and there</b>
1680
02:23:08,566 --> 02:23:10,033
<b>are methods that don't work.</b>
1681
02:23:10,600 --> 02:23:12,799
<b>The only method that works</b>
1682
02:23:12,866 --> 02:23:18,000
<b>is a method that is based on human</b>
<b>relationship</b>
1683
02:23:18,066 --> 02:23:22,200
<b>with the so-called recipients</b>
1684
02:23:22,266 --> 02:23:23,666
<b>that we call interlocutors.</b>
1685
02:23:23,733 --> 02:23:27,500
<b>So, if you establish</b>
1686
02:23:27,566 --> 02:23:30,533
<b>this relationship, I'm not saying that</b>
<b>everything else is easy,</b>
1687
02:23:30,600 --> 02:23:34,366
<b>but we are in the context of a growth</b>
<b>process.</b>
1688
02:23:34,733 --> 02:23:35,766
<b>If you don't establish</b>
1689
02:23:35,833 --> 02:23:38,866
<b>this relationship, nothing good will ever</b>
<b>happen.</b>
1690
02:23:39,366 --> 02:23:42,266
<b>So our formula is very very simple,</b>
1691
02:23:42,933 --> 02:23:44,266
<b>but very very difficult,</b>
1692
02:23:45,533 --> 02:23:47,366
<b>because we live in a society</b>
1693
02:23:47,433 --> 02:23:49,666
<b>in which working on the relationship,</b>
1694
02:23:49,733 --> 02:23:52,633
<b>in a society in which working on the</b>
<b>significance,</b>
1695
02:23:52,700 --> 02:23:56,500
<b>on involvement and motive, etc.</b>
1696
02:23:56,666 --> 02:24:02,500
<b>It is not of this world, so involvement</b>
<b>and motive</b>
1697
02:24:02,566 --> 02:24:06,133
<b>is liked when they have to scare people,</b>
<b>when they have to</b>
1698
02:24:06,200 --> 02:24:09,433
<b>incite hatred, when they have to incite</b>
1699
02:24:09,500 --> 02:24:11,433
<b>ethnocentrism, etcetera etcetera.</b>
1700
02:24:11,500 --> 02:24:16,899
<b>With the emotions of Our government, they</b>
<b>know how to do it with</b>
1701
02:24:16,966 --> 02:24:21,500
<b>quelle negative, con quelle positive,</b>
<b>la solidarietà,</b>
1702
02:24:21,566 --> 02:24:25,266
<b>l'empathia, l'amicizia, su</b>
1703
02:24:25,333 --> 02:24:28,466
<b>quelle chie che ci sa fare, risponde.</b>
1704
02:24:28,533 --> 02:24:35,299
<b>Se secondo me è una delle</b>
<b>consapevolezze che, una delle più</b>
1705
02:24:35,366 --> 02:24:38,766
<b>importanti che esce fuori da tutto</b>
<b>questo da un bambino che</b>
1706
02:24:38,833 --> 02:24:42,399
<b>fa questo percorso, non sei al centro,</b>
<b>è la natura è tutto</b>
1707
02:24:42,466 --> 02:24:45,500
<b>intorno e quindi tu comandi o comunque</b>
<b>utilizzi.</b>
1708
02:24:46,233 --> 02:24:49,933
<b>e sfrutti sei parte e qui impari</b>
1709
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:53,000
<b>davvero essere parte impari davvero ed è</b>
1710
02:24:54,133 --> 02:24:57,333
<b>bellissimo questo cerchio che qui puoi</b>
<b>comprendere perché</b>
1711
02:24:57,399 --> 02:24:59,533
<b>se lo laggi sui libri semplicemente</b>
1712
02:24:59,733 --> 02:25:00,333
<b>non</b>
1713
02:25:01,366 --> 02:25:02,966
<b>giustamente non è la stessa cosa</b>
1714
02:25:03,033 --> 02:25:06,000
<b>giustamente non mi sono da non è la</b>
<b>colpe volizzare</b>
1715
02:25:06,066 --> 02:25:10,833
<b>il bambino che non fa esperienza quindi</b>
<b>grazie perché</b>
1716
02:25:10,899 --> 02:25:13,700
<b>è</b>
1717
02:25:13,766 --> 02:25:16,833
<b>è un'opportunità che si dà i bambini,</b>
1718
02:25:16,899 --> 02:25:20,000
<b>che date i bambini davvero</b>
<b>importantissima</b>
1719
02:25:27,366 --> 02:25:28,666
<b>filo magico</b>
1720
02:25:33,533 --> 02:25:35,333
<b>in un freddo pomeriggio</b>
1721
02:25:35,566 --> 02:25:39,033
<b>in una piccola e fredda città dove tutto</b>
<b>era bianco di neve</b>
1722
02:25:39,100 --> 02:25:40,899
<b>o nero per la fulligine dei camini</b>
1723
02:25:41,233 --> 02:25:43,799
<b>Annabelle trova una scatola con</b>
1724
02:25:43,866 --> 02:25:48,033
<b>dentro un filo di tutti colori</b>
1725
02:25:48,166 --> 02:25:50,500
<b>Così andò a casa e con i ferris si fece un</b>
1726
02:25:50,566 --> 02:25:53,466
<b>bel maglione e quando Annabelle ebbe</b>
<b>finito</b>
1727
02:25:53,933 --> 02:25:56,066
<b>le avanzava ancora del filo</b>
1728
02:25:56,133 --> 02:25:58,533
<b>quindi fece un maglione anche per Mars</b>
1729
02:25:58,966 --> 02:26:01,566
<b>ma avanzava ancora del filo</b>
1730
02:26:02,233 --> 02:26:05,733
<b>Quando Annabelle e Mars uscirono a fare</b>
<b>una passeggiata</b>
1731
02:26:05,866 --> 02:26:10,633
<b>Nate gli additori dendo di se siete ridicoli</b>
1732
02:26:11,066 --> 02:26:12,933
<b>Sei soltanto geloso di se</b>
1733
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:16,033
<b>Annabelle no che non lo sono rispose Nate</b>
1734
02:26:18,299 --> 02:26:19,266
<b>Invece lo era</b>
1735
02:26:20,500 --> 02:26:22,633
<b>E anche dopo che aveva fatto un maglione</b>
1736
02:26:22,700 --> 02:26:26,366
<b>per Nate per il suo cane e per sé e per</b>
<b>Mars</b>
1737
02:26:26,766 --> 02:26:28,666
<b>Annabelle aveva ancora del filo</b>
1738
02:26:29,766 --> 02:26:33,233
<b>A scuola i compagni di classe di Annabelle</b>
1739
02:26:33,299 --> 02:26:35,299
<b>non facevano che parlare del suo maglione</b>
1740
02:26:36,066 --> 02:26:38,200
<b>Silenzio urlò il maestro Norman</b>
1741
02:26:39,166 --> 02:26:41,533
<b>Sate zitti Annabelle il tuo</b>
1742
02:26:41,600 --> 02:26:43,533
<b>maglione è una terribile distrazione</b>
1743
02:26:43,600 --> 02:26:46,700
<b>Non riesco di insegnare se tutti si</b>
<b>voltano a guardarti</b>
1744
02:26:47,466 --> 02:26:49,799
<b>Allora farò un maglione per ognuno</b>
1745
02:26:49,866 --> 02:26:52,633
<b>disse Annabelle così non si volteranno più</b>
1746
02:26:53,833 --> 02:26:56,633
<b>Impossibile disse il maestro non puoi farcela</b>
1747
02:26:58,766 --> 02:27:00,799
<b>Invece ci riuscì</b>
1748
02:27:01,299 --> 02:27:06,000
<b>Fece maglioni per tutti anche per il</b>
<b>maestro Norman e</b>
1749
02:27:06,066 --> 02:27:10,833
<b>quando ebbe finito Annabelle aveva ancora</b>
<b>del filo</b>
1750
02:27:10,933 --> 02:27:14,333
<b>Fece maglioni per la sua mamma e per il</b>
<b>suo papà e anche</b>
1751
02:27:14,399 --> 02:27:16,133
<b>for Mr. Pendleton and Mrs.</b>
1752
02:27:16,200 --> 02:27:18,733
<b>Pendleton and for Dr. Palmer</b>
1753
02:27:19,066 --> 02:27:20,566
<b>and for little Lewis</b>
1754
02:27:22,799 --> 02:27:24,333
<b>She made a sweater for each</b>
1755
02:27:24,533 --> 02:27:27,799
<b>Except for Mr. Creptri who never wore</b>
1756
02:27:27,866 --> 02:27:30,600
<b>sweaters or long pants and stood in</b>
1757
02:27:30,666 --> 02:27:32,833
<b>shorts in the snow up to his knees</b>
1758
02:27:33,433 --> 02:27:36,833
<b>No sweaters for me thanks confirmed Mr. Creptri</b>
1759
02:27:37,433 --> 02:27:39,600
<b>So for Mr. Creptri</b>
1760
02:27:39,899 --> 02:27:44,933
<b>Annabelle made a cap and still had yarn left</b>
1761
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:51,233
<b>She made sweaters for all the dogs and all</b>
1762
02:27:51,299 --> 02:27:53,700
<b>the cats and even for other animals</b>
1763
02:27:54,433 --> 02:27:59,566
<b>Soon people thought soon Annabelle will run out of yarn</b>
1764
02:27:59,666 --> 02:28:00,299
<b>but no</b>
1765
02:28:01,166 --> 02:28:03,533
<b>Annabelle made sweaters even for</b>
1766
02:28:03,600 --> 02:28:05,533
<b>things that didn't wear sweaters</b>
1767
02:28:07,133 --> 02:28:11,200
<b>And things in that small town began to change</b>
1768
02:28:11,266 --> 02:28:15,133
<b>Word spread of this</b>
1769
02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:17,933
<b>extraordinary girl who never ran out of yarn</b>
1770
02:28:18,366 --> 02:28:21,466
<b>people came from all over the world to see the sweaters</b>
1771
02:28:21,533 --> 02:28:24,466
<b>and to shake hands with Annabelle</b>
1772
02:28:24,700 --> 02:28:27,933
<b>One day an archduke who was crazy about clothes</b>
1773
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:31,299
<b>crossed the sea and asked to meet her</b>
1774
02:28:33,066 --> 02:28:36,100
<b>Little girl said the archduke I want to buy that</b>
1775
02:28:36,166 --> 02:28:38,133
<b>prodigious box of yarn I am</b>
1776
02:28:38,200 --> 02:28:40,466
<b>willing to offer you a million dollars</b>
1777
02:28:41,266 --> 02:28:43,600
<b>No thanks replied Annabelle who was</b>
1778
02:28:43,666 --> 02:28:45,500
<b>making a sweater for a truck</b>
1779
02:28:46,733 --> 02:28:51,666
<b>The archduke's mustache twitched two million he said</b>
1780
02:28:52,333 --> 02:28:54,500
<b>Annabelle shook her head</b>
1781
02:28:54,566 --> 02:28:55,633
<b>No thanks</b>
1782
02:28:56,033 --> 02:29:00,033
<b>10 million said the archduke take it or leave it</b>
1783
02:29:00,533 --> 02:29:05,299
<b>Leave it said Annabelle I won't sell the yarn and she didn't</b>
1784
02:29:05,366 --> 02:29:10,666
<b>That night the archduke hired three thieves</b>
1785
02:29:10,733 --> 02:29:13,066
<b>to break into Annabelle's house</b>
1786
02:29:13,799 --> 02:29:18,399
<b>The three thieves stole the box and brought it to the archduke</b>
1787
02:29:18,466 --> 02:29:21,200
<b>who left in the snow and</b>
1788
02:29:21,266 --> 02:29:22,866
<b>boarded his ship</b>
1789
02:29:27,833 --> 02:29:30,533
<b>To return to his castle</b>
1790
02:29:32,433 --> 02:29:36,133
<b>He played his favorite song and settled into the most</b>
1791
02:29:36,200 --> 02:29:38,299
<b>beautiful chair then took the box</b>
1792
02:29:38,366 --> 02:29:40,733
<b>lifted the lid and looked inside</b>
1793
02:29:40,799 --> 02:29:47,299
<b>His mustache twitched and trembled and vibrated</b>
1794
02:29:47,366 --> 02:29:51,100
<b>The archduke threw the box out the window and shouted</b>
1795
02:29:51,766 --> 02:29:54,933
<b>Little girl I curse you with the curse of my</b>
1796
02:29:55,000 --> 02:29:57,466
<b>family you will never be happy again</b>
1797
02:29:59,700 --> 02:30:00,366
<b>Instead</b>