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<b>Is Fifi the original punk?</b>
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<b>That's a good question.</b>
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<b>I don't think so.</b>
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<b>But actually, having read Femmi...</b>
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<b>Well, I've read it.</b>
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<b>I read it during the residency.</b>
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<b>I hadn't read it before.</b>
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<b>Street Might told me, yeah, you
have to read Femminess Punk.</b>
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<b>I said, yes, yes, of course.</b>
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<b>I didn't have any.</b>
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<b>It's super punk, that's it.</b>
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<b>I arrived, I didn't do my homework.</b>
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<b>And I found some super cool points</b>
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<b>in relation to this thing that is
much criticized in the punk commu.</b>
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<b>It's being individualistic.</b>
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<b>Well, this thing, being in a community.</b>
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<b>But still, it's also, you do
what you want to do.</b>
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<b>Always with this relationship
to what is good.</b>
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<b>So, I'm faithful too.</b>
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<b>And that can be criticized in the
punk or anarchist commu as well.</b>
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<b>This somewhat vague thing sometimes,
the borders.</b>
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<b>And I don't know, what did
I take away from it?</b>
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<b>Yeah, I knew the punk commu quite
little, except for Sid Vicious.</b>
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<b>I would say it was God Save the Queen.</b>
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<b>I think that was my knowledge
of punk.</b>
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<b>And in fact, I knew a little bit
about the anarchist movements.</b>
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<b>I had some friends in there.</b>
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<b>But then, I don't know if Fifi
is in those times.</b>
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<b>It's mostly Christine
Avantin who is.</b>
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<b>And I found that interesting.</b>
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<b>It's Christine Avantin who still
has a</b>
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<b>very anarchist and very
punk look at Fifi.</b>
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<b>That's what punk is.</b>
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<b>There's really this relationship
to queer as well.</b>
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<b>I was the bridge with Feminist Punk.</b>
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<b>There's a whole act on flirting.</b>
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<b>And so, by doing drag,
necessarily,</b>
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<b>I was also interested in this
relationship of singe.</b>
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<b>There, precisely, the grand ladies.</b>
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<b>But with love, with kindness.</b>
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<b>And wanting to be a grand lady.</b>
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<b>But using the codes to excess.</b>
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<b>And so, you're no longer a grand lady.</b>
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<b>You're a cagole, you know.</b>
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<b>And I like that.</b>
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<b>That, I really liked it.</b>
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<b>And I think in punk, there's
a little bit of that too.</b>
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<b>Well, in any case, that's how I go
through drag in a punk way.</b>
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<b>Well, drag fuck.</b>
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<b>And saying, we don't care.</b>
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<b>We do things with the resources
we have.</b>
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<b>And that's a bit of what Fifi is
too, it's about</b>
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<b>making magic with everything
around you.</b>
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<b>Yeah, it's about using, of course,
using everyday objects.</b>
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<b>Finally, and then we do anything
with them.</b>
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<b>And then everything is a pretext
for a show, for an exploration.</b>
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<b>I don't really know because you
do</b>
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<b>some flirting based on not much,</b>
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<b>you still come to do a bit of these</b>
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<b>disruptive things a little bit
anyway, what you do.</b>
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<b>There's the desire to flirt because
there's the</b>
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<b>movement anyway, actually what's
happening now,</b>
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<b>is that with... well, it's been a
few years now but with Netflix,</b>
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<b>well at least with the streaming
platforms, there has been</b>
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<b>access to Drag Race for example,</b>
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<b>to RuPaul who is still an
institution.</b>
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<b>Yes, but I will say it.</b>
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<b>Yes, take, take, now I don't have
any.</b>
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<b>Who is still an institution and who</b>
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<b>comes with a kind of capitalization
of drag.</b>
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<b>And put that in codes in fact on
how you...</b>
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<b>And that's it...</b>
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<b>But with that, there is a
counter-culture that organizes.</b>
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<b>Of course, from the moment there
are codes, where</b>
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<b>there are many norms in a way of
performing,</b>
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<b>there is necessarily a
counter-culture that always comes</b>
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<b>to counterbalance that. Even, I
was saying to myself, it was a</b>
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<b>question that we asked ourselves
a lot regarding</b>
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<b>politics and the fact that
potentially the far right is rising</b>
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<b>in France and that we will have
to manage with far-right elected</b>
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<b>officials. There, we don't yet know
what the counter-culture will be.</b>
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<b>There are already small movements
that are organizing.</b>
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<b>But to respond to the norm, it
will go through below, it will</b>
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<b>divert. There will be a need to find,
it will happen, I think, quite</b>
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<b>naturally. But how are we going
to divert from</b>
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<b>responding to the rise of the
far right by a diversion?</b>
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<b>I think that, it is not yet... There
are small subcultures on that.</b>
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<b>There is also a
reappropriation because the</b>
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<b>drag, it is still also an
artistic movement</b>
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<b>and of militant revolts, of
minorities.</b>
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<b>And that there, yes, try to stay
in inclusive approaches,</b>
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<b>and not just leave that to people
who have the means,</b>
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<b>people who are mostly white,
people... That's it.</b>
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<b>And that we must not forget
where it comes from.</b>
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<b>And that's maybe what we're also
trying to do, the fight is there too.</b>
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<b>The subculture has always
been there because</b>
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<b>there have always been the
dominant movements</b>
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<b>and so continue to fight below
to maintain these things</b>
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<b>and then... Yeah.</b>
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<b>Yes, I think so. We said that Fifi...</b>
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<b>No, you see.</b>
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<b>Yes, maybe. There, we say it in English.</b>
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<b>We have to say it in French.</b>
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<b>No, no. What we tried to work on this
afternoon,</b>
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<b>was the fact that Pippi Longstocking,</b>
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<b>when she...</b>
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<b>when she is faced with something</b>
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<b>that puts her in a position
of submission,</b>
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<b>she will try to take it from
another side</b>
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<b>and come to divert, in fact,
the domination...</b>
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<b>and therefore to go to the side,
to reinvent, in fact...</b>
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<b>Bypass the rules, as soon as there
are rules,</b>
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<b>codes that are created by
the dominant mass,</b>
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<b>who have always turned with play and with
joy and kindness.</b>
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<b>But if you want, there's the window.</b>
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<b>No no, not at all, it's just that she
has to film there.</b>
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<b>They said it should be open
for the camera.</b>
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<b>Yeah, yeah. But it's just
that at Strait,</b>
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<b>she just needs to smoke a little
further away.</b>
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<b>I'm going elsewhere.</b>
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<b>It's okay.</b>
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<b>No, you have to leave it open.</b>
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<b>That's it, must.</b>
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<b>That's it, but at Strait, you smoke
further away so the smoke doesn't come in.</b>
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<b>Yeah, that's right.</b>
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<b>Yeah, yeah.</b>
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<b>Turn off...</b>
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<b>...fuck it.</b>
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<b>Yeah.</b>
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<b>Yes, yes.</b>
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<b>Turn off, fuck it.</b>
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<b>Yes, well, that, but don't throw it away.</b>
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<b>And I... Yes, well, I think in any
case, on the day...</b>
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<b>But even in November, well, it's...</b>
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<b>Finally, this question of diversion...</b>
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<b>And of...</b>
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<b>But even, we were talking about it earlier
in discussion like that,</b>
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<b>but the fact that nothing is serious...</b>
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<b>Yes, that's true.</b>
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<b>There is still... I think that's a
little pannecoci.</b>
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<b>Yeah, that's right. That everything is...</b>
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<b>It's the right.</b>
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<b>Are you from there?</b>
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<b>Because otherwise, we filmed at the entrance.</b>
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<b>Oh, there are all the...</b>
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<b>All the Fifis.</b>
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<b>Yeah, that all the...</b>
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<b>That, yeah, come each time to defuse once
again areas of conflict,</b>
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<b>areas of authority, areas
of impression,</b>
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<b>thanks to the game and thanks to the...</b>
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<b>So, not mockery, maybe not, but in
any case, a carefree attitude.</b>
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<b>Exactly, yeah.</b>
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<b>And yes, that thing you have in</b>
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<b>childhood that's so great is that,
in fact,</b>
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<b>you feel like anything is possible.</b>
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<b>Well, there's a bit of this thing that...</b>
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<b>In fact, there are barriers set by
adults and everything,</b>
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<b>but in the game, in invention,</b>
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<b>everything is still achievable,</b>
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<b>you're at the very beginning of your
life, and nothing is very determined yet.</b>
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<b>And what about this thing
of staying a child,</b>
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<b>and that's why they take the candy at
the end, but to stay a child,</b>
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<b>but in drag, there's that too...</b>
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<b>A bit, well, in the détournement of...</b>
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<b>Well, yes, that's it, it's about...</b>
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<b>In drag, through what, what is the
metaphor of...?</b>
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<b>Identities are fluid, you know.</b>
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<b>There's that thing of...</b>
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<b>You don't want to train who you want.</b>
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<b>And we can play...</b>
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<b>It's not if it's called a game in drag,
but...</b>
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<b>It is, huh.</b>
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<b>Yeah, yeah, that's it.</b>
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<b>In any case, different characters...</b>
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<b>More and more.</b>
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<b>And in any case, even in challenges,
in shows like Drag Race,</b>
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<b>there's the snatch game, for example, of
playing to imitate someone and caricature,</b>
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<b>and so it's also a game
of improvisation...</b>
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<b>It's one of the biggest challenges.</b>
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<b>For all the drags,
they are not...</b>
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<b>Oh my god, it's horrible.</b>
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<b>Because, then, you come to choose
a personality,</b>
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<b>you come to...</b>
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<b>Metamorphose into her.</b>
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<b>And in addition, you must answer
questions by being like them,</b>
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<b>well, by working in...</b>
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<b>An element of them and drawing
the caricature.</b>
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<b>Well, yeah, no, it's really...</b>
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<b>And so, it's what we were saying, I
don't know if you've already said that,</b>
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<b>but for Fifi with the great lady, you
know.</b>
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<b>Well, yes, that's it.</b>
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<b>We've been through, we've left
from there to go...</b>
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<b>I even tell myself, it can also be
related to the figure of the child.</b>
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<b>When you know the child, I come to
take his mother's heels,</b>
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<b>I come to put the necklace, to make
you...</b>
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<b>Limit the adults.</b>
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<b>Yeah.</b>
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<b>And make a...</b>
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<b>And so, the codes of adults that are
gendered of party, what, yeah.</b>
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<b>And so, in the thousand
ways to be there,</b>
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<b>there were, at one point,
I asked you,</b>
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<b>a thousand ways to be an adult.</b>
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<b>There was also that about what
it is...</b>
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<b>What it is to...</b>
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<b>Yes, we immediately have the
wake-up call, you're going to do</b>
<b>something like that.</b>
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<b>There, it's your phone.</b>
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<b>Yeah, it's funny.</b>
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<b>It's funny that it comes to be an
adult if we're busy.</b>
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<b>Yeah.</b>
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<b>But not if, it's true.</b>
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<b>We have things to do, actually.</b>
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<b>We have things to do.</b>
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<b>We have things to answer and...</b>
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<b>There, there are things that
don't work,</b>
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<b>so directly, it's constraints.</b>
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<b>And when you're a child you...</b>
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<b>You don't have them, right?</b>
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<b>In any case, you invent them.</b>
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<b>You invent them yeah yeah.</b>
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<b>You act like the parents, like
you're busy?</b>
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<b>Yeah.</b>
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<b>Yes, that's why in any case there,
we're not playing Fifi.</b>
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<b>In any case, it's a big question.</b>
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<b>We still remain very inspired
by the stories,</b>
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<b>but we obviously get around that
by using.</b>
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<b>And that was notably a big question
from the beginning of the week.</b>
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<b>It's what is Fifi?</b>
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<b>And so, what are Fifi's codes?</b>
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<b>In a way or in any case, what are
the...</b>
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<b>We can appropriate it without...</b>
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<b>What are the meanings?</b>
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<b>The codes we like, because we
said earlier</b>
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<b>about colonialism.</b>
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<b>Yes, there are things we don't
want to address in Fifi.</b>
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<b>After that, there are other things
we want to address</b>
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<b>and we don't need Fifi in the end.</b>
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<b>We emancipate ourselves from Fifi
to address things that speak to us.</b>
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<b>And as a result, Fifi becomes a
research material</b>
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<b>more than an adaptation.</b>
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<b>Regarding colonialism, it's that
it's dated.</b>
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<b>We are no longer in these relationships
and we have another look today.</b>
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<b>And even if Astrid Lundgren maybe
she criticizes them,</b>
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<b>also her colonial relationships
and everything...</b>
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<b>It's done in a way...</b>
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<b>It's not submissive.</b>
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<b>We don't go through it because we
are only white people.</b>
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<b>There was also that, to address
a subject that doesn't concern</b>
<b>everyone.</b>
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<b>It's not up to us to talk about it.</b>
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<b>Let's give way to the people
concerned to talk about it better</b>
<b>than us.</b>
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<b>And that... yeah.</b>
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<b>So, here we are, inventing...</b>
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<b>Well, what is it today, really?</b>
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<b>It's about bypassing the rules.</b>
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<b>Here in the room, in the village
at Le Mêd today.</b>
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<b>That's right.</b>
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<b>It's an authorization thing, right?</b>
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<b>Okay.</b>
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<b>Okay.</b>